Xbox One (Durango) Technical hardware investigation

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is Dave still at ATI/AMD? he would know... lol
He is, I believe, and if he does know he'd be the last to say anything.

He's little more than a PR/company mouthpiece on this board these days. Besides even when not taking in mind any contractual considerations, it wouldn't do him, AMD OR MS any good if he was to say anything anyway, so of course he won't. :)
 
Why would it? Volcanic Islands seemingly major difference between it and Sea/Southern Island doesn't seem to be its gpu components. Its major difference is that AMD calls an APU a GPU when its thrown on a graphics card.

Look at the CUs again. 16 Volcanic Islands CUs seem to have a different structure than Southern Island CUs.
 
He is, I believe, and if he does know he'd be the last to say anything.

He's little more than a PR/company mouthpiece on this board these days. Besides even when not taking in mind any contractual considerations, it wouldn't do him, AMD OR MS any good if he was to say anything anyway, so of course he won't. :)

It's possible he knows but you are correct in saying it will do none of the parties involved any good. But hey Grall, please don't call the guy a company mouthpiece. Have a little more respect for a guy that helped make this board and website what it is today.


As for this monster APU posted above. There's no way that's going into the new Xbox unless MS plans to release it in mid-2016 and even then that might be a stretch. Who knows though, it could be something MS is looking at if they do indeed wish to launch future versions of Xbox "Whatever" in a few years. Either that or this is going into SEGA's new arcade hardware ;)
 
bkillian knows a LOT, it's obvious, but if he confirmed or denied anything he would break his DNA.
NDA, not DNA, although breaking either of those would probably not be a good thing. :)

if he have a paypal we can try to break his NDA ($$$$$$$) :rolleyes:
Um, I think getting paid to break my non-disclosures would constitute corporate espionage, and is punishable by up to 15 years in prison, and a $5 million fine.
 
NDA, not DNA, although breaking either of those would probably not be a good thing. :)

Um, I think getting paid to break my non-disclosures would constitute corporate espionage, and is punishable by up to 15 years in prison, and a $5 million fine.

just playing im sure.

i sent you a PM a while back. have you gotten a chance to look at it?
 
For $5, I'll buy you a cup of coffee. ;)

5$ for one cup of coffee?
here in italy with 0,8€ you'll get a very good coffee, if you came here I'll buy some for you :)
maybe with enough alcool inside to make you chat more about what you know ;D
decide within 11 days
 
5$ for one cup of coffee?
here in italy with 0,8€ you'll get a very good coffee, if you came here I'll buy some for you :)
maybe with enough alcool inside to make you chat more about what you know ;D
decide within 11 days


Pretty sure that cup of coffee can only be 1.2OZ any thing more and they will need to go back to the warehouse and get more which will cause some serious delays and increase the cost.
 
Look at the CUs again. 16 Volcanic Islands CUs seem to have a different structure than Southern Island CUs.

Its a basic diagram thats looks no different than previous renditions of GCN other than doubling up on the ACEs.

Whats so different between that and this.

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-amd-radeon-hd-7970-hd-7950-heading-southern-islands-tahiti

The biggest highlight for me, if thats truly an Volcanic Islands gpu, is that basically AMD and Nvidia are both moving to discrete heterogenous gpus cards, where gpgpu is going to become commonplace in PC rendering while being facillitated without the need to burden or be burden by the limited bus bandwidth between a discrete gpu card and the cpu/apu.

I can see AMD using steamroller cores and high CU counts for like workstation/server setups and PC gamers willing to spend Titan like prices. While using Jag cores to services the rest of the market.

The implication with the 720 is if Yukon in its original configuration allowed for different setups. Go basic AMD apu like Trinity or employ the system apu/360 cpus to function as the general purpose cpu while the main apu is bascially deployed for rendering and other gpu related functions using gpgpu to augment its performance.
 
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Or the high-level diagram is showing 16 groups of 4 CUs, hence the shared instruction and scalar caches (assuming $K is just the use of a technically obsolete term for the read-only cache).
Tahiti also shares those caches in groups of 4.

The L1 data blob is a discrepancy, but given other technical ambiguities in the diagram, I wouldn't know which way that one falls.
 
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It's rumoured that AMD are releasing VI on PC with CPU cores built in.. That's where that die shot is from, afaik it has nothing to do with consoles.
 
The diagram is bullshit. Well its not a graphics card diagram that much is sure.
volcanic-islands26iur9.jpg


likely nothing to do with VI or the xbox. May have nothing to do with AMD either.
 
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