Xbox Game Pass, Game Pass Ultimate now Includes EA Play! [XGP, GamePass]

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  1. AzBat

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    Where are you seeing $600? I specifically used $499 in my table.

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    I'm guessing because the 4% savings seems pretty small. So there's room to hypothesize that it may be 599 USD (~20% savings) or 549 USD (~13% savings).

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    Yes I did see that :smile: I thought it was not necessary to point that out, but fair enough perhaps I didnt see it, my point is you and others have been arguing game pass is gonna make MS so much money in the future (thus its in their interest to get everyone onto it, and 2 year contract will feeel hard to break at the end I assume once youre used to it for 2 year)

    if gamepass is such a good thing for MS they should be giving ppl very favorable terms (discount) for being locked into it for 2 years right?

    SS = $600 (gamepass) vs $300 standalone
    SX = $840 (gamepass) vs $500 standalone

    now of course most ppl that buy consoles only need gamepass console, 24months x 10 = $240

    300+240 = $540 yet they want you to pay $600 (you lose $60)
    500+240 = $740 yet they want you to pay $840 (you lose $100)

    (ok for the ultimate one)
    300+360 = $660 yet they want you to pay $600 (you gain $60)
    500+360 = $860 yet they want you to pay $840 (you gain $20)

    The one that benefits the customer most is someone who is cheap enough that they dont want a SX but is rich enough that they also want to game on the PC (this is prolly the smallest subset of users) for everyone else its a bad deal.
    If gamepass is such a good deal for MS (see what other ppl have proposed in the other thread, 'it will make them so much revenue in the long game') they MS should be making it attractive for ppl to grab it now, at the moment if you want a SX then you are better off buying it standalone

    hmmm perhaps the SX will launch at $600

    edit: just seen, with gamepass if you buy it standalone you get first month for $1 and they have done deals in the past for 3 months ultimate for $1, perhaps in the future they will as well? I think MS do occasional deals right, if you buy a year?
    Like I said unless you only have $25 or $35 in the bank its not a good deal

    (seems discounts still happen, heres a recent one)
    from arstechnica
    Update (06/10/2020 11:30am ET): Amazon has lowered the price of our featured deal by a couple bucks, bringing the price of a three-month Xbox Game Pass Ultimate membership down to $23. We've updated this article accordingly.
     
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    Xbox All Access is 0% interest financing & does not cost more than if you were to get the service & hardware separately. Here's my breakdown.


    XboxAllAccess2.png

    Xbox All Access is the best deal in gaming if you want hardware and subscription. BTW, you can pay it off early too.

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    All access is pretty good this time. Game pass ult means all these games are playable on the pc also. If you’re happy with the library that comes with gamepass, it’s hard to see this as a bad deal esp as people seem to prefer subscriptions these days (I don’t).
     
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    Why are user mashes are almost always better than official marketing. It's a rhetorical question, because they're created by people who care and understand the product.
     
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    Not to derail this thread, but Microsoft confirmed $499 estimated retail price of Series X and the $34.99 monthly All Access price as well. Seems like the 4% discount is all the top performer gets.
     
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    EA are pushing it everywhere. The games are old and they want consumers to purchase all the DLC and microtransactions found in their games. I doubt it even cost MS anything at all.
     
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    Yeah, MS keep saying that Gamepass has value to publishers and I think that's what we're seeing in action. From my perspective, just having more games to dabble in is fantastic.

    I may even have a go at one of the kicky ball games. Haven't played one of those for about three generations.
     
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    All Access expands to 12 countries...

    https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/xbox-all-access-expands-to-12-countries-this-holiday/

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    https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-all-access/upgrade

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    Basing this off memory so could be off, but I think retail EA Play is $30 a year, which would mean a shortfall of $21 to EA after MS takes their 30%. So maybe only costs MS that $21 a year per subscriber? That would leave Microsoft with $99 from their $120 Game Pass yearly price or with $159 from their $180 Game Pass Ultimate yearly price?
     
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    Xbox socials have been on fire. LOL



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    Personally, I think it's highly doubtful it cost MS anything at all, for the reasons I've stated already. If anything, EA are selling it to MS for less than $1/month per user. Now that GamePass is moving to its $10/month price, it's possible it might be more?
     
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    Seeing as microtransactions/lootboxes is the bulk of EA's annual financial profit, I don't disagree at all. I just hope parents are aware of the possible damage the lootboxes can cause i.e. being compared to gambling and ruining a few families lives.

    With the economy as it is and a lot of people without jobs, Gamepass and a cheap console is a good thing, however EA's predatory practises aren't.
     
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    Does not make sense, of course they are charging them money.
    If they wanted more ppl with EA play (thus more microtransactions etc) then EA play would be free now for everyone, but its not they charge 25euros/tear or 4euros a month
     
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    It can make sense by increasing your potential mtx/dlc customers by 10's of millions of consumers instantly.
     
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