xbox 360 confirmed pricing

pc999 said:
But now we can play live out of the box, and those how want a bit more of tatics in their online games (which corrent XB is the best to have), will have their experience ruined.

Well, you still have to get a Xbox Live Gold account to play online, and you're going to need a memory card or somewhere to save your live settings. So either way, you're going to be buying something. Might as well buy the Live starter kit instead of just doing a Silver -> Gold account upgrade.
 
scooby_dooby said:
pc999 - the HD cables, wireless controller, headset and remote make the $100 almost worth it, then include the HDD on top and it's a pretty good deal (relatively)

The premium pack should have been $299 and just have 1 SKU, that would have been a good deal.
 
V3 said:
Yeah I know, but $299 is as much as I wanted to pay for X360, since none of the game interest me so far, so mainly only getting it to complete my collection.

errr.... yes.
I guess it would certainly lower the colletors-value if you buy it cheaper at a later time
 
valioso said:
the premium is not only adding a hard drive, so people are not paying $100 extra just for the hard drive.
pc999 - the HD cables, wireless controller, headset and remote make the $100 almost worth it, then include the HDD on top and it's a pretty good deal (relatively)

Considering that only very few do have HDTV, and that wireless controlers Should be much cheaper and a lot of people wouldnt mind with wired control, then most people will buy because they prefer spend 100 in a HDD than much more in memory cards, ao all in all people will always spend 400+, so this is only calling us stupids and cuting the value a lot even if they make the 400 the only versin i.e. only one version at 400 do have more value than a exact equal version but with much less value (because of a version without HDD and headset).

IMO a HDD + headset version and a all + wireless + HD, that is fine with me but this is really a bad thing.
 
Man this bites.

As others have said, it's not that $399 is too expensive for what comes in the package...it's that the 'core system' negates the use the HDD, which was a big advantage it had over the PS3 imo.

I would have bought the $399 version but now with the impotent HDD, not so sure.

Now all Sony has to do is drop BR, throw in a HDD and it's game over. ;)

/sigh I picked a bad time to invest in MS it seems.
 
All this crying over the hard drive is such a waste of time. It's a really big memory card, that's how it was used on the xbox. Developers never really took advantage of it previously. They only used it to cache files which really isn't much of an advantage, and to store files too big for the memory cards.
 
pc999 said:
Considering that only very few do have HDTV, and that wireless controlers Should be much cheaper and a lot of people wouldnt mind with wired control, then most people will buy because they prefer spend 100 in a HDD than much more in memory cards, ao all in all people will always spend 400+, so this is only calling us stupids and cuting the value a lot even if they make the 400 the only versin i.e. only one version at 400 do have more value than a exact equal version but with much less value (because of a version without HDD and headset).

IMO a HDD + headset version and a all + wireless + HD, that is fine with me but this is really a bad thing.

you don't need HD to benefit alot from compnent cables though. anyone witha bigscreen will want compnents.

components + memory card = $80 USD.
 
Qroach said:
All this crying over the hard drive is such a waste of time. It's a really big memory card, that's how it was used on the xbox. Developers never really took advantage of it previously. They only used it to cache files which really isn't much of an advantage, and to store files too big for the memory cards.

true, but the biggest impact IMO, is that now games that require a HDD will not come to x360, or at leats in lesser numbers.

So as gamers, we miss out on some quality franchises because of this.
 
This is a smart move on MS's part. Offer a low-end version then have all the perhiphreals cost an arm and a leg, then have a high-end version with many of the periphreals for $100 more. Everyone will end up buy the high-end version, because they think they'll be saving moving. The walk away thinking they got a great deal and are happy, when in fact they just paid $100 more than the "ceiling" price for a console. Very good manipulation of the consumer mind. More over when Mommy and Daddy go out to by little Billy his Christmas present the store clerk will recommend the more expensive, because the cheap one's a rip, and next thing you know more and more green in MS's pocket without pissing off the consumer.
 
Qroach said:
All this crying over the hard drive is such a waste of time. It's a really big memory card, that's how it was used on the xbox. Developers never really took advantage of it previously. They only used it to cache files which really isn't much of an advantage, and to store files too big for the memory cards.

Now XB could be much biger and with Live market place it could really turns in a great thing, but now many dev will turn that features off or at least bring them very down.

This time HDD would be ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ importante than with XB1.
 
Npl said:
errr.... yes.
I guess it would certainly lower the colletors-value if you buy it cheaper at a later time

I am not collecting it for value or anything, I just like getting a new console at launched. Probably going to open it and mess around with it.
 
Have you guys read this yet ?

I cant link straight to Teamxbox since im at work but I can post the article.

www.Teamxbox.com



Ending weeks of speculation about which upcoming video game platform will give gamers the most bang for their buck, today at the German Games Convention, Microsoft Corp. revealed that consumers can get their hands on Xbox 360 — the most powerful and feature-packed next-generation video game and entertainment system — for as little as $299.99 U.S./€299.99/£209.99 starting this holiday season. For gamers who want to experience the ultimate digital entertainment thrill ride, Microsoft also announced a model with hundreds of dollars worth of accessories for $399.99 U.S./€399.99/£279.99, giving consumers the definitive entertainment experience at an unbelievable value right out of the box.


The Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Core System — along with an impressive lineup of high-definition game titles from the world’s best publishers and developers — will make their debut in North America, Europe and Japan in time for this Christmas holiday, several months ahead of the competition. Although details for the Japan launch will be addressed at the Tokyo Game Show in September, the unprecedented three-region launch signifies an industry first. The Xbox 360 platform will deliver the most powerful console, the best games, the next generation of the Xbox Live service, and amazing digital entertainment experiences never seen in console entertainment.

“The sheer entertainment value of Xbox 360 cannot be overstated,â€￾ said Robbie Bach, chief Xbox officer for Microsoft. “While the system has the muscle to power awe-inspiring graphics, audio and online play, it’s also got the intelligence to serve as a one-of-a-kind entertainment device that plays CDs, DVDs, MP3s and digital content from an array of devices, including portable music players and digital cameras.â€￾

With its built-in Ethernet port and free Silver level of service right out of the box, Xbox 360 also connects players to Xbox Live, the premier global online console games and entertainment network.


With Xbox Live, gamers can chat with friends online, build and share gamer profiles, send and receive text and voice messages, and access Xbox Live Marketplace for new content such as game demos, trailers and casual games from Xbox Live Arcade. Subscribers to the Gold level of service will also enjoy access to online multiplayer gaming in their favorite games, as well as great promotional programs such as worldwide tournaments, the chance to play online with their favorite celebrities, and opportunities to win big prizes.

For gamers who want the ultimate experience (and the best value) right out of the box, Microsoft will offer the $399.99 U.S./€399.99/£279.99 Xbox 360 console. This premium edition — distinguished by signature metallic detailing on the console itself — comes fully loaded for the ultimate gaming experience, with components and accessories that would cost more than $200 if sold separately:


Xbox 360 console. Sexy styling that packs a punch — three powerful core processors are poised to pump out 720p/1080i output, 16x9 cinematic aspect ratio, anti-aliasing for smooth textures, full surround sound and DVD playback right out of the box.
Xbox 360 Hard Drive (20 GB). 20 GB and detachable, the hard drive allows gamers to store their games, music, downloaded trailers, levels, demos and community-created content from Xbox Live Marketplace.
Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. Hassle-free high-performance precision wireless gaming features the Xbox Guide Button for quick access to digital movies, music and games libraries as well as a range and battery life of up to 30 feet and 30 hours of life on two AA batteries.
Xbox 360 Faceplate. The removable Faceplate comes in stylish “chillâ€￾ (white) and can be swapped out with custom Faceplates to reflect gamers’ personalities or decor.
Xbox 360 Headset. This lets gamers strategize with teammates or trash-talk opponents while playing games on Xbox Live.
Xbox 360 Component HD-AV Cable. This connects gamers to the world of Xbox 360 games and graphics through high-definition and standard-definition connections.
Xbox Live Silver membership. With this, gamers can chat with friends online, send and receive voice and text messages, and access new content from Xbox Live Marketplace demos such as trailers and casual games from Xbox Live Arcade.
A bonus Media Remote: Included for a limited time, the integrated control center for the entire digital experience lets consumers play DVDs, movies and music, as well as access their Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005-based PC's controls with a single remote.


At $299.99 U.S./€299.99/£209.99, the Xbox 360 Core System comes standard with what consumers need to jump right into next-generation games and media, and is fully expandable to the complete Xbox 360 experience:


Xbox 360 console. As with the premium edition, three powerful core processors pump out 720p/1080i output, 16x9 cinematic aspect ratio, anti-aliasing for smooth textures, full surround sound and DVD playback right out of the box.
Xbox 360 Controller. This wired controller features an extended nine-foot cable and a comfortable, enhanced ergonomic design.
Xbox 360 Faceplate. Like no other console before, the Xbox 360 console allows customization and a removable Faceplate that comes in stylish “chillâ€￾ (white), which can be swapped out with other custom Faceplates to reflect gamers’ personalities or decor.
Xbox 360 Standard AV Cable. This connects gamers to the world of Xbox 360, delivering great next-generation graphics and games using standard-definition connections.


The Xbox 360 console also comes ready for customization. With an array of Xbox 360 accessories, gamers can trick out their systems to suit their individual tastes and personalize their experiences. In addition to an ever-growing selection of eye-catching Faceplates ($19.99 U.S./€19.99/£14.99), Xbox 360 Controller (estimated retail price $39.99 U.S./€34.99/£24.99*) and Component HD AV Cable (estimated retail price $39.99 U.S./€29.99/£19.99*), the lineup includes a wealth of accessories that brings next-generation gaming entertainment to its optimum:

Xbox 360 Hard Drive (20 GB). 20 GB and detachable, the hard drive allows gamers to store their games, music, downloaded trailers, levels, demos and community-created content from Xbox Live Marketplace and more (estimated retail price $99.99 U.S./€99.99/£69.99*).

Xbox 360 Memory Unit (64 MB). Easily portable, this lets gamers save games, in-game achievements and unique gamer profiles for quick and easy access on the go (estimated retail price $39.99 U.S./€34.99/£22.99*).

Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. The same hassle-free high-performance precision wireless gaming that comes with the premium edition features the Xbox Guide Button for quick access to digital movies, music and games libraries as well as a range and battery life of up to 30 feet and 30 hours of life on two AA batteries (estimated retail price $49.99 U.S./€44.99/£32.99*).

Xbox 360 Play & Charge Kit. This allows plug and play for high-performance, precision wireless gaming with the Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. Gamers will be given ample warning when the end of battery life is nearing so they can connect the Play & Charge cable for uninterrupted play (estimated retail price $19.99 U.S./€19.99/£14.99*).

Xbox 360 rechargeable battery pack. This provides up to 25 hours of gameplay for wireless gaming fun (estimated retail price $11.99 U.S./€14.99/£9.99*).

Xbox 360 Wireless Networking Adapter. With this, gamers can chat with friends and play games via Xbox Live, as well as stream videos and music to Xbox 360 from a Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005-based PC, all without the clutter of wires (estimated retail price $99.99 U.S./€79.99 /£59.99*).

Xbox 360 Headset. This heightens the Xbox Live experience by letting gamers strategize with teammates or trash-talk opponents while playing games (estimated retail price $19.99 U.S./€19.99/£14.99*).

Xbox 360 Universal Media Remote. Sold as an accessory, this integrated control center for the entire digital experience lets consumers play DVDs, movies and music, as well as control a TV and their Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005-based PC controls with a single controller (estimated retail price $29.99 U.S./€29.99/£19.99*).

Xbox 360 S-Video AV Cable (U.S. only) Xbox 360 SCART AV Cable (Europe only). This versatile cable works for both high-definition and standard-definition TVs that use S-Video or composite video inputs. It provides optimal audio and video signal transfer (estimated retail price $29.99 U.S./€24.99/£17.99*).

Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable. Gamers can experience high-definition gaming on flat-panel TV or VGA monitors. This cable provides optimal audio and video signal transfer (estimated retail price $39.99 U.S./€29.99/£19.99*).

“With both the Xbox 360 and the Xbox 360 Core System, we’re offering consumers real choice and real value,â€￾ said Peter Moore, corporate vice president of worldwide marketing and publishing for the Home Entertainment Division at Microsoft. “We’re bringing true next-generation experiences into gamers’ living rooms this Christmas holiday.â€￾
Courtesy of TeamXbox
 
Vysez said:
Yes!
In fact, I'm the highest authority when it comes to what I think is interesting to me and what's not.

great. than in the future please at the two words "to me" at the end of your sentances. Because that's not what you rpost said.

Also, what did that add to the conversation? If it's uninteresting "to you", then why did you post?
 
Anyone know if the PS3 will have rechargeable batteries either included or as an option?

If you want rechargeable batteries, you'd have to spend $32 more?

Or if you bought the Core and wanted to upgrade, you'd be spending $82?
 
Great news for European buyers.

You can buy the core system for cheap or the fully featured one for a bit more, and even the fully featured one costs less than the original Xbox did. The cheap one is comparable in features to a DC or PSTwo, and barely more than the DC was at launch.

P.S. most Xbox games only used the HDD for streaming - some didn't use it all other than as a memory card. Whatever kind of personal happiness you can find in your own mind knowing that your console has a built in HDD, it isn't worth the cost to provide it for Microsoft, or for Sony, or for Nintendo. That's why they aren't doing.

It's one of those things. Deal with it. Most people didn't buy an Xbox becuase "iT CAn buFFer DatA on ThE HDD!!111". Infact, most people didn't buy an Xbox at all, they a system without a HDD, while MS lost lots of money on every unit they sold. The HDD can still be used for buffering data from the DVD, that's an option the devs can almost certainly turn on if the drive is present.
 
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