Windows 10 [2014 - 2017]

[Blazkowicz]

not being able to move my one drive location is killing me. I have 15 gigs free on my main ssd. On 8.1 I just moved the directory to my mechanical drive and had no problem

Can you forcibly move it? (move it and replace it on the C:\ drive with a junction point or symlink).
It's what I did with the Steam folder under linux. Then after updates it seems to have become sort of officially managed that way (in the semi-hidden ~/.steam directory)

 

[BRiT]

I wish Win10 included Battle Chess. They could use Halo characters.

 

[eastmen]

Can you forcibly move it? (move it and replace it on the C:\ drive with a junction point or symlink).
It's what I did with the Steam folder under linux. Then after updates it seems to have become sort of officially managed that way (in the semi-hidden ~/.steam directory)

there is a way , you have to uninstall onedrive and a bunch of other stuff. But new builds are hitting every month now so I'm going to try to hold off. I don't want to break anything in a beta os you know ?

 

[DJ12]

not being able to move my one drive location is killing me. I have 15 gigs free on my main ssd. On 8.1 I just moved the directory to my mechanical drive and had no problem

Pretty sure one drive gives the option to move location.

I haven't done so though because my and the wife's profiles are stored entirely on a mechanical drive leaving the ssd just for Windows and apps.

Also means I don't have to move anything when installing a new build

 

[eastmen]

it doesn't do it in windows 10 only windows 8.1

 

[Cyan]

Sorry for the noob question... but I am thinking about performing a clean installation when Windows 10 is available for free. I have a C: and a D: partition. The D: partition has some extra free space available, but C: is almost filled with data.

Thing is... if you perform a clean, full, 1st time installation of Windows 10, will you lose the data from the D: drive too? I ask this because I am planning to use the D: partition as a backup disc, so I don't need to go through the hassle of using external USB drives to copy/paste data around when the internal HD of my laptop should be more than enough. :smile2:

 

[Silent_Buddha]

You don't have to lose anything on any drive.

It all depends on the install option you choose to do. If you partition and format the drive you lose everything on that drive. Otherwise you lose nothing on that drive. Other than what Windows replaces (Windows folder, registry, etc.) is the only thing that changes.

Regards,
SB

 

[fehu]

Why not virtualized?

 

[Davros]

What would be the point for someone who just wants a single operating system ?

 

[Dave Baumann]

Installed build 10074 last night, but only briefly got to use it. Some of the tweaks in this build seem better than the prior one, however at the moment I am really not liking the desktop UI. Frankly, in my option, it is an ugly mess. I'm a proponent of the new UI and live tiles, but they are transitioning more of the desktop functionality and looks into a "similar" style and, right now, it just doesn't work IMO.

Likewise, Spartan/Edge just isn't "good" for me as a desktop browser. The Interface is too tuned for tablet use and a step back relative to other desktop browsers.

I'm currently on the fast ring of builds and it is pretty clear that its right in the middle of a transition (for instance, more and more of the "old" control panel is moving to the new one with each build) and maybe finding their feet in terms of styling. I suspect that there is still plenty of changes to come given the speed with which they are running at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Likewise, Spartan/Edge just isn't "good" for me as a desktop browser. The Interface is too tuned for tablet use and a step back relative to other desktop browsers.

Maybe their target really is the touch experience first and foremost. The tech-savvy people already have their own "preferred" browser that Microsoft knows they won't change.
The reality is that for a windows 8.1 tablet touch experience, only the IE11 Touch is passable. Chrome, Firefox and Opera are terrible for touch, and they don't even have a Windows Store version.

Yesterday's announcements were a lot about Microsoft acknowledging that they can't change all they wished to, and proposing second routes for the Windows platform to become a viable alternative in touch-based devices.

 

[Arwin]

I think they're really getting it, though, and going in exactly the right direction, allowing the UI of Windows and its apps to change from touch to desktop optimised views and interfaces on the fly, whether you are on DeskTop, Laptop, Tablet or Phone. And in doing that, they seem to have lept over Apple's efforts in that direction quite significantly.

Also, Edge seems like a proper redesign. It has a good chance of becoming my favorite browser *if* they implement all the standards properly. If they don't have a native date control again, I'll know not to take them serious.

 

[Cyan]

You don't have to lose anything on any drive.

It all depends on the install option you choose to do. If you partition and format the drive you lose everything on that drive. Otherwise you lose nothing on that drive. Other than what Windows replaces (Windows folder, registry, etc.) is the only thing that changes.

Regards,
SB

Ah, okay. With Windows 8 Pro I made a "legacy installation" so I didn't have to completely ditch Windows 7, keeping the folders intact and the documents, registry, photos, etc.

There was another option to install Windows 8 from scratch and that's the option I'd use today if I could. There was a warning message saying that I'd lose some of the data, and that's where my caution comes from.

Ideally, you can use the D: drive as a backup drive -extraction of the important files is pretty easy, I know where they are organised- and then perform a clean installation, which seems to me the ideal solution.

Why not virtualized?

Too complex for me. I am going to start studying computer science next year, because it's my true passion, but while I virtualised drives before to create a DVD drive, that steps seems more complicated.

What would be the point for someone who just wants a single operating system ?

Yes, I am not going to use several OSs on my humble laptop, but the point is not to delete de D: drive at all costs, so creating new partitions and stuff like that is out of the question.

I think they're really getting it, though, and going in exactly the right direction, allowing the UI of Windows and its apps to change from touch to desktop optimised views and interfaces on the fly, whether you are on DeskTop, Laptop, Tablet or Phone. And in doing that, they seem to have lept over Apple's efforts in that direction quite significantly.

Also, Edge seems like a proper redesign. It has a good chance of becoming my favorite browser *if* they implement all the standards properly. If they don't have a native date control again, I'll know not to take them serious.

What is native date control? Just curious...

For now, this new article says that Edge scores better at benchmarks than Chrome, Firefox and IE11.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-edge-scores-better-benchmark-results-ie11-chrome-and-firefox

 

[Silent_Buddha]

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-edge-scores-better-benchmark-results-ie11-chrome-and-firefox

I really REALLY REALLY dislike the look for Microsoft Edge. IMO, just like Google Chrome, it takes a HUGE step backwards in useability. IE 8 still remains my favorite browser UI design, unfortunately it's not something I'd use anymore just due to the lack of updates = vulnerability to malware.

Regards,
SB

 

[Grall]

IE8 was pretty great yeah. Haven't seen too much of edge yet, but from what I've gathered it seems it's not the complete disaster that is later IEs, which have UI elements spread out almost randomly all over the window. I always wondered if the clueless committee who designed IE10/11 were all drunk off their asses...

 

[Blazkowicz]

IE Edge's reload button should be on the URL bar's right side, not on the left side. Let's all be up in arms about it

I don't understand how it's that different from IE 10/11, though, but that's only from the screenshots. It's still a browser without menu bar and with UI elements in what was formerly a window's title bar.
Obviously the layout was done to lure Chrome users in, and some people won't really know they're not using Chrome anymore. But we need competition against Google's monopolistic browser practices

I want to joke about them needing to release it for Mac OS and Linux, but that's very unlikely.

 

[Blazkowicz]

Also, it's hard to tell from a glance if it's a desktop application or a Metro application.

 

[MfA]

Looks good enough for me ... I'll probably start using it, kinda fed up with Firefox still not having process per tab.

Classic Microsoft though to see them using their new security API heavily in their own application but not exposing it to (non metro-) non Microsoft developers.

 

[Cyan]

IE Edge's reload button should be on the URL bar's right side, not on the left side. Let's all be up in arms about it

I don't understand how it's that different from IE 10/11, though, but that's only from the screenshots. It's still a browser without menu bar and with UI elements in what was formerly a window's title bar.
Obviously the layout was done to lure Chrome users in, and some people won't really know they're not using Chrome anymore. But we need competition against Google's monopolistic browser practices

I want to joke about them needing to release it for Mac OS and Linux, but that's very unlikely.

What was the first browser which brought tabs for a better navigation? Was it Opera? I am almost sure it was. I think Opera also was the first browser showing a minimalistic UI, iirc.

News: Aero Glass returns in the new Windows 10 build.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10074-iso-now-available-download-aero-glass-returns

 

[zed]

What was the first browser which brought tabs for a better navigation? Was it Opera? I am almost sure it was. I think Opera also was the first browser showing a minimalistic UI, iirc.

Firefox was first I actually remember jumping onto that straight away, I liked opera apart from that huge ad.

Finally IE has seen logic, I Proposed they do this on these forums a couple of years ago. Wasting Space with a menubar & a titlebar & a toolbar is just nuts.