Windows 10 [2014 - 2017]

[BRiT]

What more do you feel they need to do?

 

[Deleted member 2197]

What more do you feel they need to do?

Regarding the store all apps/games (not just free) should not require a Microsoft Account sign in, or rather some form of decentralized mechanism w/o MS collecting purchase info.

 

[BRiT]

Why? You need an account for Apple and Google and Amazon and Steam and Origin stores.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Regarding the store all apps/games (not just free) should not require a Microsoft Account sign in, or rather some form of decentralized mechanism w/o MS collecting purchase info.

How else are they going to be able to verify ownership of a title? Even Steam requires a user account to purchase apps. As does Origin, GOG, Amazon (which also requires a Steam/Origin/etc. user account), Newegg, Humble Bundle (almost all titles require either a Steam or Origin user account in order to redeem a purchase), etc.

Making it sound like Microsoft is doing something strange or underhanded, when basically every store that sells digital titles requires a user account of some sort.

Regards,
SB

 

[Deleted member 2197]

Making it sound like Microsoft is doing something strange or underhanded, when basically every store that sells digital titles requires a user account of some sort.

Yes, it's unfortunate Microsoft had to follow suit ... hopefully other competitive choices will crop up since there's no reason MS has to be the only provider of digital titles. I'm thinking something similar to Microsoft providing browser/search engine choices, perhaps there will be a choice of other digital title providers in the future for people to choose.

 

[BRiT]

There already are competitive choices for PC namely Steam, GOG, Origin.

What are you going on about pharma? How are you seeing things so completely different than how the rest of us see it?

 

[Deleted member 2197]

What are you going on about pharma? How are you seeing things so completely different than how the rest of us see it?

Lol, I guess I'm one of the those who have not yet subscribed to the new OS and probably won't for quite a bit. I welcome the small changes (free games/apps w/o account) but MS is still "playing games" by excluding Home edition users -- wtf does it matter whether it's a Pro or Home edition for free software. Some people will take whatever bone is thrown w/o wondering, others not.

 

[BRiT]

Wtf does it matter having an account or multiple accounts on a store? I just dont see the issue. It's how all stores function. You dont need to provide real information to MS and can use paypal or operator billing if you dont want MS to have your CC info. You could even redeem xbox gift cards so its all anonymous. That's far better than the other store fronts you likely use already.

 

[Deleted member 2197]

You dont need to provide real information to MS and can use paypal or operator billing if you dont want MS to have your CC info. You could even redeem xbox gift cards so its all anonymous. That's far better than the other store fronts you likely use already.

That's a positive since I have not used the MS store ... my impression was factual info + CC was required.

 

[Deleted member 2197]

How Windows 10 data collection trades privacy for security

The Privacy option in Settings lets administrators choose one of three telemetry levels: Basic, Enhanced, and Full. Windows 10 Home and Pro are set by default to Full. Windows 10 Enterprise and Education are set by default to Enhanced. But there’s a fourth level called Security available only in Windows 10 Enterprise and Education editions, and only through group policies (not via Settings).

It’s worth noting that Windows is not intentionally collecting functional data, such as the user’s location when the user is looking at local weather or news. The application may collect such data, but not the Windows 10 operating system—and thus not the Windows 10 telemetry. Of course, Microsoft collects personal information from its own applications. Cortana is such an example, but users can turn off Cortana completely.

Overall, IT organizations should be able to find a telemetry level they’re comfortable with in terms of privacy, while not sacrificing the core security of Windows. They may have to pay the price of higher admin costs if they use the lowest telemetry level (Security), but only if they choose to do so.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/31...a-collection-trades-privacy-for-security.html

 

[Cyan]

 

[Voxilla]

Great news Windows is coming back to ARM, this time for real.

 

[Arnold Beckenbauer]

So, the Surface 4 willl come with Snapdragon 835.

 

[Malo]

That can't be good news for Intel and AMD.

 

[Gubbi]

Two words: Surface Phone.

I've been harping on this for years. It's what they should've done four years ago. Run a VM on the phone, run the baseband in the root partition and a full Windows in a child partition.

That can't be good news for Intel and AMD.

Qualcomm SOCs will go into super cheap laptops (currently using Pentium branded Atoms), tablets and phones. AMD and Intel are in laptops, ultrabooks (and convertibles), desktop/workstations and servers.

With Intel effectively orphaning the Atom line, I don't see a lot of overlap, at least not right now.

Down the line Qualcomm's SOCs might erode Intel/AMD from the bottom if they become performance competitive. Conversely it might force Intel and AMD to be serious about power/performance.

Cheers

 

[Voxilla]

Two words: Surface Phone.
Qualcomm SOCs will go into super cheap laptops (currently using Pentium branded Atoms), tablets and phones. AMD and Intel are in laptops, ultrabooks (and convertibles), desktop/workstations and servers.

With Intel effectively orphaning the Atom line, I don't see a lot of overlap, at least not right now.
Cheers

Xavier also might be a good contender, 8 CPU cores, 512 GPU Pascal cores,
The high end ARM cores already are way above Atoms in performance in my opinion and experience.
I quickly see ARM CPUs going in all Windows devices from tablet to server.

 

[Ike Turner]

Great news Windows is coming back to ARM, this time for real.

Well it never really left ARM.. Windows 10 Mobile is exactly this; full blown Windows 10 (32Bit) on ARM. They are just finally switching to 64bit on ARM (for S820, 835 etc SoCs) and added Win32 (x86) emulation/VM of 32bit desktop apps.
Surface Phone it is..hopefully in 2017 and not 2018.

 

[3dilettante]

That can't be good news for Intel and AMD.

I recall discussion surrounding AMD's selling its mobile division to Qualcomm including a covenant that kept AMD out of the mobile space, at least for a time.
Would that time be past now, or would Qualcomm going into the PC space give reason for AMD to start sending out feelers in the opposite direction? (Irrespective of the mobile suitability of its implementations so far)

 

[swaaye]

Xavier also might be a good contender, 8 CPU cores, 512 GPU Pascal cores,
The high end ARM cores already are way above Atoms in performance in my opinion and experience.
I quickly see ARM CPUs going in all Windows devices from tablet to server.

Didn't Intel give up on Atom? I thought BayTrail and CherryTrail were great but those are 2013 and 2014 tech so yeah they're falling behind.

 

[Michellstar]

What about K12, was not canned right?