Maybe he prefer fonts thst Samsung use in their android phones.
All are very visibly different
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All are very visibly different
Segoe is an excellent font. More balanced than Arial and deliberately spacious. Yes, it looks the same as other fonts because there's not a great deal you can do to a basic sans serif without becoming too stylised to be useful for mainstream application, but within its requirements it definitely has a distinctive style that makes it more suitable than many other sans serif options. Also, MS won't have to license it if they produce their own font (which also means they can't just clone an existing typeface under another name, so it has to look different enough I guess to avoid being sued?).
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Both google and MS outdid apple in terms of UI design this decade, and it was actually iOS and OSX that ended up following on their footsteps. If I'm not mistaken iOS uses Light Helvetica Neue, which actually was created decades ago for print, and for a number of reasons is less than ideo for a phone UI interface.
The design philosophy and graphical language under Windows Metro is very tastefull, they fucked up in its implementation and introduction. If apple still does one thing better than everybody else, its having the patience to only release big new concepts when they are very well polished. MS constatly poinsons its own well by putting out half baked shit. The prejudiced and misplaced hate for their visual style choices is proof of that. After so many fuckups, you'd think they'd learn that lesson.
The design philosophy and graphical language under Windows Metro is very tastefull, they fucked up in its implementation and introduction. If apple still does one thing better than everybody else, its having the patience to only release big new concepts when they are very well polished. MS constatly poinsons its own well by putting out half baked shit. The prejudiced and misplaced hate for their visual style choices is proof of that. After so many fuckups, you'd think they'd learn that lesson.
Have Google introduced things ahead of when they're ready? Apple's screwed up UI design when they went all minimalist and started replacing buttons with labels. I definitely find Android the most intuitive touch interface, although pages of icons is likely a bad idea for people who use their devices more extensively than I do. That's where folders come in, and TBH it should be easy for apps to group themselves with a couple of voluntary description tags. "Art", "Photos", "Chat", and everything's grouped. Could also run it as a database and use the 'folders' as queries, so SnapChat features in both the Photo and Chat app folders.
Overall though, modern HCI design is taking a pummelling next to runaway design priorities more concerned with stylish screenshots than being able to actually use the damned things!
Overall though, modern HCI design is taking a pummelling next to runaway design priorities more concerned with stylish screenshots than being able to actually use the damned things!
iOS new look is very hmmm.... how can i say it... hard to see?
i mean they use white icon on top of neon green background. White text on top of bright almost white background. The text also very thin.
i mean they use white icon on top of neon green background. White text on top of bright almost white background. The text also very thin.
They used. As of iOS9, they switched to their own typeface.
You can bolden the text and fiddle with contrast in the accessibility settings. @Shifty Geezer You can also enable button frames for text-only buttons in accessibility settings. This does help a lot, btw.
I don't suffer (or well, not after enabling the button frames), but yeah, some of the styling choices are kinda bad from a readability standpoint, especially in sunlight. It has been speculated that partly the design was made this way to fuck with android handset makers copying Apple's designs and then displaying them on pentile OLED screens, making the thin font alias and the phone running down its battery due to the bright backgrounds and design elements.
Maybe bullshit, maybe true. Who knows.
I rather like it though.
Probably false because the only one using lots of AMOLED is Samsung and Samsung prefer to use thick and tacky fonts.
Chinese manufacturers love to copy apple and use thin fonts with their lcd screen
Chinese manufacturers love to copy apple and use thin fonts with their lcd screen
I just find modern interfaces so utterly boring! As well as often misleading or confusing. I can understand the opposition to the bright, overcoloured direction some things had taken, but the result isn't good. I do like Google's 'Material' design when nicely executed. The bold lines of default icons work well and look pretty with their shadows especially on a subtle gradient. When it's just minimalistic white geometry on a plain circle, they look like the contemporary snorefest.
Would litestep do what you want (i used to use it back in the xp days)
http://neiio.deviantart.com/art/Plasma-580400751
http://www.litestep.info
http://neiio.deviantart.com/art/Plasma-580400751
http://www.litestep.info
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I hope we can get KDE on windows when Windows 10 UI will become unbearable.
Oh dear god no, that looks horrible and has a similar near unusable (IMO) start menu as Windows 7 and before.
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So Microsoft nerfed their theme engine?
Ages ago everything can be changed right?
Ages ago everything can be changed right?
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I wonder how many people actually still use their couple of years old 3D TV/monitor for the 3D stuff?
Lol, yeah transparent monitors sound cool, until you think about how it would be like to actually use them, especially on a 'busy' background.
I was gonna say, sounded like heresy for Apple to be not using proprietary font, that would be so un-Apple
well both & more colors
heres my win10 start menu (which has improved from win 8), now the MS tiles (which are a limited form of a widget) are just a white icon on a plain background, usually a single pallette (and here it looks like exclusively blue)
A/ it looks bad
B/ the usability sux, since the icon is a 2bit (what is this the 70s) gfx, often you have to read the text to see what the program is, and whats with the tiny icons in the middle of the tile. Make them 4x larger at least (in fact cover the whole tile)
the above KDE aint much better, in fact is in some ways worse.
Ideal is what I suggested back about 2005, not sure if it was here or elsewhere, where the startbar = all info/possiblities instantly
material design successfully merged that minimalist look and "tangibility" feel. While Metro design simply look bland.
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well both & more colors
heres my win10 start menu (which has improved from win 8), now the MS tiles (which are a limited form of a widget) are just a white icon on a plain background, usually a single pallette (and here it looks like exclusively blue)
A/ it looks bad
B/ the usability sux, since the icon is a 2bit (what is this the 70s) gfx, often you have to read the text to see what the program is, and whats with the tiny icons in the middle of the tile. Make them 4x larger at least (in fact cover the whole tile)
the above KDE aint much better, in fact is in some ways worse.
Ideal is what I suggested back about 2005, not sure if it was here or elsewhere, where the startbar = all info/possiblities instantly
It's almost like someone went out of their way to deliberately try to make it look as bad as possible.
While I prefer the Windows 8/8.1 start screen, the Windows 10 one isn't that bad once I adjusted to the vertical scrolling versus the horizontal scrolling. I've got everything in nice categories and which are easy to launch at a glance. And that's with ~200 tiles in multiple defined categories. The applications I rarely use might take a bit more than a quarter of a second to find and launch.
I'm rather annoyed that I can't make the start menu take up the entire screen on the monitor (1600x2560), however.
Regards,
SB
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Something like that.Oops, the magic smoke escaped from a cap somewhere!
Mobo, GPU & Monitor all in like a month
I agree with you in that material design is very good looking. In my opinion, the best big OS/software UI design usability aesthetic-wise.
I also agree that metro can look so bad, it sometimes is eye-sore-indcucing. Actually, it looks bad and broken more often than not. The implementation has been shit since its introduction. But with that said, I think the visual layout and aesthetics created for it were perfectly fine and elegant. Of course, conceptualizing something great and not being able to execute it is close to worthless. I just don't think adding gradients, shadows and glow improves on it. It's not like MS designers didn't know how to do freaking gradients and shadows. They went with the conscious decisions of making something clean and minimalist that didn't try to emulate the physical world in any way. A computer generated UI that wasn't ashamed of being computer generated, and that kept only the absolutely most necessary visual features, and got rid of anything else. I love that they did that, specially comming from the kitch days of Vista's glassy window frames and stoopid 3D window switching...
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