Where is Revenge ? (3dfx related)

[Mummy]

Some 3dfx fanboys (not on this forum) claimed that a new video card called "Revenge" was due to be announced, im asking Sage or Tagrineth (because they happen to know well about 3dfx, seems), or anybody that knows, if they heard anything or if its just a lame attempt of some silly lamers to make some fun (i sense vaporware).

Seems that "3dhq" site was involved, someone said "3dhq inc" would make it, using "3dfx tech" (they dont know that nVidia holds all patents trademarks etc?), lets see..

 

[gkar1]

You seem to have been taken for a fool my friend

 

[Mummy]

Some of the ones that said about "Revenge" are involved in the development of new drivers for 3dfx cards, and claim they have a presentation of it as well, im asking here because i think this forum is more respectable than the other where those things were said, i dont believe much about it (the first "announce" was made months ago, just now they reiterated it..), so i just wanna see if this vaporware spreaded around or not .

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Is this based on the chip that's designed in MS Paint?

Okay, so the name 'Revenge' implies that this card should avange the dissolution of 3dfx, most likely on Nvidia. This is perfect for fanboi thinking, but any serious person working in the 3d industry knows that Nvidia had little to do with the company's collapsing. So why would they want to take revenge for this?

The only logical target for a revenge would be the 3dfx CEO, by the way, so in this case 'Revenge' should be some melee weapon...

It's most likely a product of someone's imagination. Developing something that could compete with the GF FX or the Radeon 9700 would take hundreds of millions of dollars, lots of engineering talent and time.
We've seen several times that even large companies have problems to do that, so you can imagine the chances of some small renegade team managing to do it.

 

[Mummy]

Is this based on the chip that's designed in MS Paint?

Hehe, no its not related to Talion graphics

Okay, so the name 'Revenge' implies that this card should avange the dissolution of 3dfx, most likely on Nvidia. This is perfect for fanboi thinking, but any serious person working in the 3d industry knows that Nvidia had little to do with the company's collapsing.

Most ppl dont share this view with you, despite the money wasted on STB, Gigapixel(that wasnt a waste, but it was lots of money spent) missing product cycles, overclock of old architectures... most 3dfx fanboi think that nVidia killed their fav. company

The only logical target for a revenge would be the 3dfx CEO, by the way, so in this case 'Revenge' should be some melee weapon...

It's most likely a product of someone's imagination. Developing something that could compete with the GF FX or the Radeon 9700 would take hundreds of millions of dollars, lots of engineering talent and time.
We've seen several times that even large companies have problems to do that, so you can imagine the chances of some small renegade team managing to do it.

I guess maybe some 3dfx engineers that didnt went into nVidia might be around doing something, question is, which funds ?

Im sure its just vaporware, but i'd like Sage or Tagrineth comment about it.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

I have pics of the video card, codenamed: Revenge.

I will post pics to prove them right now.

 

[Evildeus]

I have pics of the video card, codenamed: Revenge.

I will post pics to prove them right now.

Waiting

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Some of my best Paintshop Pro art.

 

[Mummy]

LOL

looks like a joint venture with Talion graphics then

 

[Ailuros]

I guess maybe some 3dfx engineers that didnt went into nVidia might be around doing something...

Question: why would an engineer prefer to stay unemployed, while he could have every chance to get a well payed job anyplace? Dreams don't pay anyone's bills last time I checked; besides NV is not the only IHV around.

 

[Geeforcer]

Since the demise of 3dfx fanboys have came up with enough 3dfx-related myths and legends to rival the Greek and Roman mythologies combined.

 

[Tagrineth]

Dammit, I want to answer some of this stuff...

Sorry guys, I can't say anything.

But if you're wondering about what's up with the engineers involved, you could think of how Nintendo got Square on board through Sony (oh, and just for your information, not one of those companies is involved in any way shape or form).

3dhq's been having mean problems lately, not the least of which being the tax id falling through. But expect things to happen... soon.

 

[Tagrineth]

Is this based on the chip that's designed in MS Paint?

Aha, stuff I *can* talk about though. Yay. No, Talon Graphics has nothing to do with anything.

Okay, so the name 'Revenge' implies that this card should avange the dissolution of 3dfx, most likely on Nvidia. This is perfect for fanboi thinking, but any serious person working in the 3d industry knows that Nvidia had little to do with the company's collapsing. So why would they want to take revenge for this?

Actually most old 3dfx fans are angry with nVidia for screwing over their support, NOT for dissolving the company (bah, few people think that). It's aggravating when Voodoo5 5500 struggles through games purely because its drivers aren't up to speed... good example being Neverwinter Nights - the game runs fine once it's running, but due to the lack of OpenGL 1.2 compliance within the driver[/i], the game can't even start up without a LOT of hack work... same with Voodoo3.

It's most likely a product of someone's imagination. Developing something that could compete with the GF FX or the Radeon 9700 would take hundreds of millions of dollars, lots of engineering talent and time.
We've seen several times that even large companies have problems to do that, so you can imagine the chances of some small renegade team managing to do it.

See my previous post, think on it, but please, nobody voice their theories. Or if anyone does, I won't comfirm or deny anything

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Pardon me Miss, but here comes the mythmaking Geforceer was talking about...

 

[Tagrineth]

Pardon me Miss, but here comes the mythmaking Geforceer was talking about...

Well, duh, this whole thread is about it.

 

[Geeforcer]

Tagrimeth, is that somehow connected with the secret private entity that "owns SLI, T-buffer and M-buffer"?

 

[Tagrineth]

Tagrimeth, is that somehow connected with the secret private entity that "owns SLI, T-buffer and M-buffer"?

Isn't the T-buffer open tech, like GLide? Heh, I can't remember now...

 

[Geeforcer]

Isn't the T-buffer open tech, like GLide? Heh, I can't remember now...

I don't know, has is gone open since oh, July 17?

Tagrineth[/url]]
About that article, I've said it before and I'll say it again, nVidia won't use SLI because they can't; they don't own it. It's a privately owned technology. Same with the T-buffer and apparently also M-buffer.

 

[Gunhead]

I figure an accumulation buffer as such is "open tech", but specific hardware implementations such as 3dfx's T-buffer are proprietary -- especially as the Tarolli-buffer incorporated more effects (them cinematic whizbangs, motion blur et al.) than just basic accumulation for anti-aliasing. If I've understood correctly.

BTW, is the "M" in M-buffer for "multisample"? Kinda lame, I expected something more interesting behind it...

As to small teams and their capability of making killer chips... Go Bitboys!

 

[Geeforcer]

Well, for what its worth Nvidia owns both trademarks (M and T buffer).