wouldn't they be able to increase sales if MS publicise it assuming it is already produced
"We have a 65nm CPU!"
98% of the world says "WTF?"
When are the 65nm PS3's and XB360's shipping?
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"We have a 65nm CPU!"
98% of the world says "WTF?"
Sounds good. I was just curious in case there was some news that I may have missed. Standard HDMI across all SKU's would make sense from a production standpoint as they would only have to produce one mainboard. If true, I hope the redesign will add full HDMI support to pass LPCM upto 7.1 instead of the current 2 channel garbage on the Elite.
i mean that they could at least say they made revisions in attempt to improve console reliability. was it robbie bach who said that they made revisions?standing ovation
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With billions going down the drain, Microsoft needs to re-engineer a workable (and profitable) solution ... pronto. And from a business standpoint it would be more advantageous to cut its losses now rather than try to recycle the very parts that contributed to them.
The goal is to eliminate liability rather than mitigate it.
So when error-prone 360s arrive in disrepair, they (like parts in the supply chain and faulty consoles in inventory) should be replaced. I know. It sounds dramatic. But this is probably the easiest way to clean up the pools of red ink on Xbox financial statements.
That sounds tautological to me
I wrote "If they disclose which one is cooler and more reliable".If they go DS Lite/PSP Slim kind of redesign people will notice. They are priced higher than older models.
If the 65nm Xbox 360 has a smaller power brick, I suspect non-hardcore people still notice it. Also retailers take notice, they'll plan a fire sale for the unreliable model they don't want to stock.
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Let me gets this cleared out though: the "so called" cooler X360's are ONLY 65nm CPU-wise, which means the oven hot GPU is still at large, with only an additional HS as its savior 
If thats the case, then how exactly will the ROD problems be solved?
If thats the case, then how exactly will the ROD problems be solved?
Let me gets this cleared out though: the "so called" cooler X360's are ONLY 65nm CPU-wise, which means the oven hot GPU is still at large, with only an additional HS as its savior
If thats the case, then how exactly will the ROD problems be solved?
Falcon is supposed to have 65nm CPU & GPU.
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Ah, so the new batch of HDMI equipped X360's coming out should have both CPU and GPU at 65nm correct?
The news just keep stating about the CPU, which is why im scratching my head
The news just keep stating about the CPU, which is why im scratching my head
Ah, so the new batch of HDMI equipped X360's coming out should have both CPU and GPU at 65nm correct?
The news just keep stating about the CPU, which is why im scratching my head
Because I believe they actually transitioned the gpu months ago so its not news.
I definitely do not think that is the case; in fact the GPU should be coming later than the CPU, not before. That's not to say that the Falcon board may not include both though, bt simply that 65nm CPUs were ready first.
Probably just the timing of when I heard it then.
Thats the basis for this?
i thought we just read last week somewhere that both were going to 65 at the same time?
Well I do think that Falcon will have both - but in terms of fabbing, I believe the CPU was ready earlier. My response was simply prompted by Alpha saying that the 65nm GPUs were inside presently shipping units, which isn't the case. I didn't mean for it to sound as if I didn't think the GPUs were ready, simply that if any one of those components was to start shipping in advance of the other, it'd probably be the CPU.
I'm not quite sure I understand the question here per se, but I mean honestly if you know that the GPU was fabbing at 65nm before the CPU was, by all means I'll take your word on it Dave. It was simply my impression that Chartered had started 65nm XeCPU production earlier than TSMC had started 65nm Xenos production.
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A shacker reports of buying a new premium, and it came with HDMI. He uploaded some pictures. Interesting that at least one store has ran through the old stocks.
Engadget snagged one of those images (that don't appear to be available anymore). [Ahh, they are visible in this Shack link]
Evidently there's no call-out indication on the box nor an HDMI cable, HDMI is apparently listed as a specification on the side. This is a silent refresh.
Evidently there's no call-out indication on the box nor an HDMI cable, HDMI is apparently listed as a specification on the side. This is a silent refresh.
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