What console should bkilian buy? *spawn
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Billy Idol
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Agreed. Exclusive content is anti-gamer content.
Well the GPU isn't a problem nor the CPU. The problem is the large memory bandwidth attached to the CPU which is right on top of the GPU. The big unknowns are the large memory bandwidths and the HSA code.
I held off mentioning this for a while because of the commotion, but why not buy a p.c instead.
For rockband there are alternatives on the p.c you can import songs from rockband/singstar/guitar hero
you can use the original controllers also you can use any midi controller so real keyboards and guitars.
You can also import any song you own no need to buy song packs at inflated prices
As for other games your interested in most of them will end up on the p.c and play better
For people in your predicament I was thinking of doing a post
"Top 2,000 games that are better on the P.C"
For rockband there are alternatives on the p.c you can import songs from rockband/singstar/guitar hero
you can use the original controllers also you can use any midi controller so real keyboards and guitars.
You can also import any song you own no need to buy song packs at inflated prices
As for other games your interested in most of them will end up on the p.c and play better
For people in your predicament I was thinking of doing a post
"Top 2,000 games that are better on the P.C"
I'm not _in_ a predicament. This whole thread was spawned off a silly question in a different thread. 
I have a PC, although it's a little old and crusty now, it's still good enough to play most PC games I'm interested in, like Starcraft and Diablo. I play games wherever it's easiest to play them. I have a ton of games on my iPad, because it's good to just grab and go (Although I mostly just play Magic 2013 on it lately - and I have that on the XBox too. Wish I could combine the progress of the two games- or do cross-platform play, this game seems perfect for that kind of non-twitch required stuff)
People here seem to infer that not buying a new console on day 1 is a horrible thing, but I didn't buy a 360 on day one either (actually, I was in Japan for work stuff on day one).
I have a PC, although it's a little old and crusty now, it's still good enough to play most PC games I'm interested in, like Starcraft and Diablo. I play games wherever it's easiest to play them. I have a ton of games on my iPad, because it's good to just grab and go (Although I mostly just play Magic 2013 on it lately - and I have that on the XBox too. Wish I could combine the progress of the two games- or do cross-platform play, this game seems perfect for that kind of non-twitch required stuff)
People here seem to infer that not buying a new console on day 1 is a horrible thing, but I didn't buy a 360 on day one either (actually, I was in Japan for work stuff on day one).
Billy Idol
Legend
Why not buy a Wii U?
I'm not _in_ a predicament. This whole thread was spawned off a silly question in a different thread.
I have a PC, although it's a little old and crusty now, it's still good enough to play most PC games I'm interested in, like Starcraft and Diablo. I play games wherever it's easiest to play them. I have a ton of games on my iPad, because it's good to just grab and go (Although I mostly just play Magic 2013 on it lately - and I have that on the XBox too. Wish I could combine the progress of the two games- or do cross-platform play, this game seems perfect for that kind of non-twitch required stuff)
People here seem to infer that not buying a new console on day 1 is a horrible thing, but I didn't buy a 360 on day one either (actually, I was in Japan for work stuff on day one).
Hi Bkilian,
I'm curious if you could answer something for me regarding MS process/research but I completely understand if you can't or prefer not to answer...
When designing projects, did MS typically compile targeted (not general) demographic research for deciding appropriate features/spec/price? Or was it always assumed a general pool of opinion was preferred as all devices are assumed to target the general public?
Thanks in advance to you sir!
Depends on the product, and the target audience for that product. Windows phone is targeted at socially connected people, Windows in general was targeted incredibly broadly. Xbox 360 uses a broad cross section of users at all gaming levels when researching features. Kin was targeted at a very specific brand of user (who, apparently, does not buy phones from MS)
I think the Kin product was fine, Verizon making users pay $30/month for data was what killed it. Bad blood.
Billy Idol
Legend
Seriously, why not buy a Wuu. You would have the controller where you can play games all over in your house similar to your iPad, but also on your TV with all your gaming achievements carrying over to the system automatically...exactly what you are wishing. Furthermore, Wuu is way less expensive than an iPad...and it is somehow a next gen device
Windows target isn't really a target. It's like food - 'targeted' at everyone.
Seriously, why not buy a Wuu. You would have the controller where you can play games all over in your house similar to your iPad, but also on your TV with all your gaming achievements carrying over to the system automatically...exactly what you are wishing. Furthermore, Wuu is way less expensive than an iPad...and it is somehow a next gen device
Wuu is less expensive, but the games aren't.
That said, they are mostly worth the asking price, if you want depth rather than variety (but that's not always the case).That said, I'm personally not very enchanted with games on the iPad versus basically on any other platforms, for me personally (for the 5yo however, it's a different story, though I'm already getting the feeling that some of the games are too stupid and hold him back too much - slightly older friends of his were clearly ready to move up from the automatic running platforms to something like Rayman Origins ...)
For some of the casual stuff though, like WordFeud or Candy Crush, or educational software, like Letterschool, there's no beating the iPad currently.
And I'm personally 110% in love with Garageband on iPad these days, especially now that I have an Apogee Max which allows me to plugin my guitar directly.
Thanks for the reply.
Bringing this back to consoles and the thread topic, it seems to me that MS over the years has aggressively broadened their target demographic with the xbox brand. The obvious assumption being that xbi would be an even broader target than current xb360+kinect. However, have you ever noted a time when during product development, updated research at the cusp of a new products release caused MS to change course so to speak?
Or was the initial research all that was done typically and the product be what it may based on that initial research?
Thanks again, I hope I walked that tight rope well enough for all involved!
Bagel seed
Veteran
Nvidia Shield is my recommendation.
Not sure what you're asking. The original "Book of Xenon" defined the vision for the xbox 360, and we've only recently got some of the features that were originally envisioned for the product. It wasn't a case of broadening the appeal over time, it was a case of delivering on an initial vision over time.
The 360 cut a huge amount of features that were originally going to be shipped at launch, in order to make their launch date. So to an outsider, it appears that MS launched a console aimed at the core and then slowly changed their focus to the casuals and media stuff, when in reality, the 360 we have now is what MS originally wanted to launch.
There is a similar vision document for a future product which shall remain nameless until the 21st, and it is equally ambitious in it's goals, and there's no way the new box will be able to meet all of the goals in that doc at launch (and it's not a document that has ever leaked). I'll enjoy seeing what got cut and how they're going to position themselves at launch. They have the unenviable problem that they can't easily launch something which cannot match the 360 feature for feature at launch, but the 360 has taken 9 years of development to get to that point, and they have had less than two years here to match, and exceed it.
But to answer your question, or what I think your question is, I don't think "updated research" will significantly change the vision that they have for this product, although it might change some of the details, like what to include at launch, and how they're going to position themselves in the competitive landscape.
Only if it comes with an Oculus Rift. I really want to try one of those things.
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