BenSkywalker
Regular
You can't even follow today's titles, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that you wouldn't know that open ended style games aren't new on consoles. I was going back twenty years to find an example, I was pointing out how long it had been done. Morrowind is simply the first to get it so terribly wrong.
You keep one upping your rabid apologist examples. I never said all XBox games were buggy or anything remotely close to it, are you that blinded by your lust? Your first language is English isn't it?
"Microsoft has lowered the standards for console gaming tollerance levels in terms of bugs a staggering amount in just over a year. Far more then any other company since prior to the NES."
Where did I say Sega is making horribly buggy games? Where did I say Konami's offerings all crash constantly? Where did I say EA can't publish a single solid coded title? First we had Morrowind, which you seem to want to dismiss as a fluke. Then we have Ghost Recon which needs a patch to function properly. Obviously most publishers and developers have standards that are a staggering amount higher then MS's, unfortunately that obviously doesn't include all of them. I have my XBox and a total of six games and one of them has major problems. Three of the titles are Sega, so I still trust them and won't hesitate to pick up one of their games for the Box. I certainly don't have faith in MS's QC however. After Morrowind we see a game that requires a patch, and this doesn't show very clearly sliding standards?
You don't know much about gaming at all, do you? Open ended gaming where your actions have an impact on what goes on around you is your criteria? Animal Crossing, Doshin the Giant, Shenmue, ShenmueII(I figure there is a slim chance you have heard of that one) and to a lesser extent even GTA3 and GTA VC. If you want I'll put together a more comprehensive list of titles that are open ended that have come out over the last twenty years on consoles starting back with the NES and working up to the XBox.
First you aren't aware that it is coming to the consoles, now you are an expert on the title.... OK
You asked for a massively open ended title which I listed, you want to give a bullet list of what the game needs to have and can't be, do it in advance. SWG is far more open ended then Morrowind. That is fact.
Are you delusional, or do you simply have severe reading comprehension problems? I was leaning towards the latter, but the more you type....
Any non locked forums? One of their editors at one point boasted he was able to play for ten hours straight with only a single crash, extremely impressive to be sure(unless, that was when he first started the game as I went longer then that without one).
If you can't do it, don't release it. I see a whole bunch of other on line games that don't need patches. Obscure issues with rare synching problems or the like are one thing, not being able to join a game is critical.
I ripped on FFXI for I don't even know how long about many different points, the thing was there wasn't anyone with such pure lust for the PS2 on these forums to try and deny the very obvious issues with the game.
I do not own nor will I purchase PSO, nor FFXI at any point in time. They have bugs and are not acceptable. Difference, I don't see the Nintendo and Sony loyalists up at arms when these problems are pointed out although their respective company wasn't even close to shipping software in nearly as poor of state as Morrowind or Ghost Recon.
When Microsoft issues a formal apology, along with Bethesda, and my money is refunded I'll stop bitshing about it. Until those three things happen, they blatantly lied and sold a product under false promises. If this happens in the automotive world the manufacturer is forced to recall their product. They sold over 200K copies, that's over $10Million they stole from people, that is well into felony territory.
I already listed examples above of open ended games that are relatively current(+ or - a couple of years of Morrowind) and I will list more if you need to be beaten over the head with it.
I am acting logical, you are not reading properly. You claimed that a game with framerate issues couldn't make it through MS QC and I'm acting illogical?
If a game ships for the XBox licensed by MS and it has game killing bugs they are responsible. Same applies for Nintendo and Sony. Of course the developer and publisher hold blame, but the big reason for buying a console is to avoid dealing with the headaches of PC gaming. It has already been demonstrated that MS is certainly willing to let far more slide then their competitors.
You worried about me ignoring it? Reread the thread, I brought up crashes that I have had with other games. Thing is, with those games I saw less then a single crash per five times through the game versus a crash every five minutes. And for the record, when I heard RL crashed once in a while I refused to buy it, it was given to me as a gift. I actually was extremely interested in picking up Morrowind so I figured I could tollerate an occasional crash, after all, it was a console title and no way MS would allow a truly horrendous POS through QC..... doh!
Good developers and publishers is why. I've never really had any problems with any id title on the PC, and besides some issues due to not enough RAM, Mafia never gave me any real headaches either. SeriousSam, both chapters, played through start to finish without a hitch for me on my PC too. Obviously, developers and publishers can get it right on their own, and console developers are more used to having to do it this way then PC devs not to mention how much easier they have it with a fixed platform.
One more time for you-
"Microsoft has lowered the standards for console gaming tollerance levels in terms of bugs a staggering amount in just over a year. Far more then any other company since prior to the NES."
Read it closely.
What the hell are you rambling about? You are the deity deeming what will be designed on which platform becuse You say it is so now? What next?
