The next-gen picture thread 56k warning

right and none of them is being rendered at 60fps are they ?

 

Yeah, I've seen that before, impressive stuff.

Ahh that's like my worst fear. Too bad really.

London Boy,

Well like Laa-Yosh said, it uses volumes for shadow. That's why.

 

Qwerty, why are you speaking in terms of "i know it WILL..." and "they WILL be able to..." and "it WON'T be able to...". It's not like you have actually seen them in action. No one has.
This is all speculation, remember? There is no "WILL". Only "MIGHT".

 

I think I might prefer seeing HDTV res games, using the latest tech from the current generation, instead of supa-fied tech demos at standard tv res

 

What use would there be for me and the other 98.9999% of the people out here who do not have an HDTV?
standard TV res with at least 8xAA will do. Of course, with the option of HDTV resolutions.

 

AA.....completely forgot about that! 8xAA would be fantastic...but it might not be good for fps (?) with the graphics levels everyone's been posting pictures about.

I always hoped that devs would put higher AA on for the standard tv, and then allow the user to select HDTV resolutions (while reducing or turning off AA).


8xAA @ 480p?
4xAA @ 720p?
2xAA @ 1080i?

*imagines DOA4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 @480p widescreen with AA*

 

Most likely those pictures are running 30fps jvd.

 

I agree with qwerty2000 , that some of you are underestimating what the next gen. consoles will be able to do ..........

please remember that the GameCube is already capable of outputting scenes like this one:

[source: http://media.cube.ign.com/media/015/015821/imgs_5.html ]



the Xbox is already capable of outputting scenes like this one:

[source: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/doaonline/screenindex.html?page=2 ]



and the PlayStation 2 is already capable of outputting scenes like this one:

[source: http://www.turmschieber.de/spiele/metal-gear-3/bilder.html ]

 

I agree with qwerty and wunderchu


btw, I like this:

 

I personaly don't agree. I think people are day dreaming.


Todays graphics suck . They are very non interactive. With all this cpu power I rather have smarter graphics not just better looking ones .I want higher res graphics , I want aa , I want anistropic filtering. I want all the pretty efffects used often in every scene.



As for fsaa since this is ati we are mostly going to be seeing 6xfsaa but the good news is we may see temporal aa as that is thier new feature and at 640x480 on a next gen video card that should be usable often.

 

Blow any of those pre-rendered pictures up to a 32+" screen size, add some big ol' ugly interlaced scanlines, some edge enhancement and aliasing in, and the result = "blah" imo

 

Qwerty, the problem is that you talk way too much in terms of "This console WILL be able to do this at 30fps", which is stupid at this point. We don't know anything about anything, so all we can do is speculate. Whether someone is day-dreaming or being too pessimistic, the fact is that no one should say "This console will/will not be able to do THIS".

All we could do at this moment in time is "I hope PS3 will be able to do THIS" or "I expect it to produce THIS KIND of graphics" seeing the specs. and since we don't even have the "specs" (only patents), we can't even say that!

It's just that your posts sounds a lot like IGN.com forums kind of material... with all due respect...

 

I picked everquest 2 because it requires a 2ghz processer and a 8500 or geforce 4 video card . Both of which are only about 3 years old now.

Those videos were taken on a geforce 6800 and an athlon 64 processer .

Yes u may get better performance and better graphics if u put both in a box and have developers only program for that . But the fact is even this pc is having trouble displaying that image and they predict a 4ghz cpu with a next generation graphics card will be ideal for this game

A 2-3 times graphical performance jump from this is staggering .

ITs so staggering that it seems many of you aren't even aware of what you are seeing on your tv screens while playing xbox and ps2 games .

I'm still waiting for a game of everquest 1 scope on a ps2 or xbox . Final fansty xi came close but not close enough (Graphics surpassed it)

 

I know a lot of people might not agree with this,but this is what I believe next-gen will look like:







Take a very good look at all the high quality games on the PS2 like GT4,Silent Hill 3,Tekken 5,Killzone,Ace Combat.A lot of them fair pretty close to some of the ones above,....and this is only for the PS2.This is what the PC is doing now with current generation hardware:

 

The Tekken 4 CGI character is actually something that would be possible on current-gen PC hardware, although without any background and at a low fps. A few depth-mapped spotlights, a shader with bumps and speculars, some high quality texture work, and of course some AA - and we're not so far beyond Nvidia's Dawn. Also, anyone remember Outcast 2?

That was 2 years ago on a PS2.

 

Almost three years ago.
They had a nice game engine ('Himalaya') which used hand drawn backgrounds I think. (not pre-rendered, something different)

Shame Appeal had to close doors, now the only game developer in Belgium is Larian Studios (a good developer, but they don't make the kind of games like Appeal and they don't do console games... yet? )

 

In my own opipion I think the ps3 will do that easily like in the last post pc could almost do that already. R500 should be able to do that in real time possibly.