The Inquirer 6800U pic

[MatiasZ]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15269

i know the second pic on that article (the one from the card) has already been posted... but regarding the first one, the one quoted here, and assuming is a real PICTURE (not a PR image) from the chip, is anyone able to guess how much the transistor count would be for such a HUGE core? is it possible to compare it to, for example, the transistor count on a NORTHWOOD (for example, if the core from the picture was 300mm2, and the northwood is around 140mm2 for a 55million part, then this core would be around 300 * 140 / 55)?? or is there a difference between the space cache takes compared to logic transistors??

 

[radar1200gs]

cache memory on cpu's is very densely packed transistor layout wise compared to the actual operational logic portion of the die.

Edit: that picture looks like a PR image to me. Production chips wouldn't have the card model silk screened onto them, the would have their NV code and revision etched on.

 

[RussSchultz]

And how, by the picture, could you tell its a 'huge' core?

 

[digitalwanderer]

And how, by the picture, could you tell its a 'huge' core?

Jebus Russ, are you blind?

Look at that picture, it's a good 4-5 inches bloody wide! It's HUGE!

 

[Pete]

Russ, that looks like the bare die (sans heatspreader), and it's pretty huge compared to R360 assuming similar-sized "sockets."

Feel free to flame me for the probably uninformed way I've used some of the above terms.

 

[Nick Spolec]

The writing on the core looks photo-chopped.

 

[3dilettante]

Aren't these pics leaked from a marketing or press kit?

It would make sense since the core in the top pic is mysteriously levitating above a generic "artist's rendition of PCB traces". That and if the picture was accurate, those are either very big traces or the core is about the size of a grain of rice.

No way I'm trusting haunted computer chips.

 

[PC-Engine]

The whole silver center section (core?) looks cut and pasted.

 

[anaqer]

I don't get it.
Why would we have to rely on PR pics when we've all seen the actual core on the "red nv40" pic?

 

[nobie]

Obviously they wouldn't put printing on the surface of the chip if it's just going to be covered with a heatsink.

 

[Fodder]

Obviously they wouldn't put printing on the surface of the chip if it's just going to be covered with a heatsink.

Pretty much all cores have either names or codes printed on them.

 

[RussSchultz]

Obviously they wouldn't put printing on the surface of the chip if it's just going to be covered with a heatsink.

Pretty much all cores have either names or codes printed on them.

Also their part number, lot number, packaging house, etc. Makes failure analysis much easier.

 

[Deleted member 2197]

A few more picts and possible prices ...

http://www.darkcrow.co.kr/Home/home.asp?idx=#3018

 

[I.S.T.]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15269

i know the second pic on that article (the one from the card) has already been posted... but regarding the first one, the one quoted here, and assuming is a real PICTURE (not a PR image) from the chip, is anyone able to guess how much the transistor count would be for such a HUGE core? is it possible to compare it to, for example, the transistor count on a NORTHWOOD (for example, if the core from the picture was 300mm2, and the northwood is around 140mm2 for a 55million part, then this core would be around 300 * 140 / 55)?? or is there a difference between the space cache takes compared to logic transistors??

The part of the pic that says GeForce 6800 Ultra has got to be one of the most obvious photoshop jobs I've ever seen.

 

[Dooby]

digitalwanderer Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:50 am Post subject:

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RussSchultz wrote:
And how, by the picture, could you tell its a 'huge' core?

Jebus Russ, are you blind?

Look at that picture, it's a good 4-5 inches bloody wide! It's HUGE!

In the ultimate case of mines bigger than yours, Im looking at that pic on a 42" plasma screen. To me that core is over 2ft across!

He he

 

[digitalwanderer]

that core is over 2ft across!

OMMFG! You know what this means?

The nV40 is growing!

 

[hoom]

Its clearly a rushed response to rumors that ATI has changed the r420 into a 600mhz 16pipe 200 million transistor beast to counter the uber nv40 & to counter it nv is changing to a 2ft core super uber doobie woobie kenubie nv40

This chip will need both a flux capacitor and a warp core to run it

This one doesn't use a dustbuster, it uses an industrial vacumcleaner

 

[retsam]

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Its clearly a rushed response to rumors that ATI has changed the r420 into a 600mhz 16pipe 200 million transistor beast to counter the uber nv40 & to counter it nv is changing to a 2ft core super uber doobie woobie kenubie nv40

This chip will need both a flux capacitor and a warp core to run it

This one doesn't use a dustbuster, it uses an industrial vacumcleaner

gawd you guys are soooo off base with this one. can you guys please grow up and NO it will not need a flux capacitor and worp core to work ....just a transwarp core will do....geee do i have to correct all your far out and crazy rumors

 

[Quitch]

So... the heat pipe was actually a plasma conduit?

 

[retsam]

So... the heat pipe was actually a plasma conduit

wow you noticed that too ... and that whole time i thought i was seeing things