Surface PRO pricing revealed !
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Blazkowicz
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I very rarely see tablets at all but portrait ipad seems popular. What about reading comics, plain books etc.
I think a 2560x1600 10" could be nice, you never have too much pixels when you're displaying text, scans, pictures, PDF etc.
On a desktop/laptop reading a PDF is always painful (a two-column paper on a 1366x768 display could be used as a new, more lenient kind of torture by the CIA). A 1600x2560 display in your hands might do the trick.
Else there's the nameless ipad but hell, I don't want to troll about Apple.
I think a 2560x1600 10" could be nice, you never have too much pixels when you're displaying text, scans, pictures, PDF etc.
On a desktop/laptop reading a PDF is always painful (a two-column paper on a 1366x768 display could be used as a new, more lenient kind of torture by the CIA). A 1600x2560 display in your hands might do the trick.
Else there's the nameless ipad but hell, I don't want to troll about Apple.
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Mintmaster
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Says who? Apple? Even if I had an iPad, I wouldn't want my browser width squeezed into 6" when 8" is available.
For reading, paperbacks have text bodies very similar to 9:16, and newspapers go very narrow, so I don't see the advantage there either.
If this was important then why didn't 4:3 Android tablets get any traction? Yeah, they were 1024x768, but the iPad Mini is still selling millions at that resolution.
Your opinion isn't very representative of the majority.
The only reason ARM tablets are "ideal as a tablet" is that you ignore all the things they can't do. You may be able to type as fast on a touch keyboard as a real one, but the vast majority of people can't. You may not care about a light computing machine not running x86 software, but lots of people do (hence subnotebook sales).
I'll agree that its not ideal as a notebook, but no ultraportable is, yet they still sell. Anyway, Surface isn't really aiming to take over the market. It's there to point the industry in the right direction, and to make a statement that Windows can help you be a lot more productive with a <2lb device than iOS can. Better processor technology is only going to strengthen the case for the tablet hybrid going forward.
95% of the time I use my tablet in portrait mode, so 16/9 is definitely not an option; I tried the Surface RT and that was the killer issue for me. Note that for my desktop, I use 16/10 because 16/9 looks odd to me even in landscape mode. Subjective yes
I'm looking at getting the Kupa X15 as it's a 16:10 screen 1980x1200 so in portrait it should be better, but obviously not quite as good as 4:3.
So am I the only one who bought one ? So far I love it , it does everything my touch pad /ipad2/transformer didn't do. I now take it every where and use it all day long.
The 2 problems with the system are battery life .. could certainly be better , I've been getting right about 5 hours in normal use and about 3 hours of gaming. The best life I got was 5:20.
My gf bought one a few days after I got mine and loves it also , she went touch cover when I went type. She is able to do all her work on it and no longer has to take the mac book home from work or sit on the desktop do her lesson plans.
My sister also wants to pick one up for work instead of using the provided desktop replacement that she has to lug around.
The 2 problems with the system are battery life .. could certainly be better , I've been getting right about 5 hours in normal use and about 3 hours of gaming. The best life I got was 5:20.
My gf bought one a few days after I got mine and loves it also , she went touch cover when I went type. She is able to do all her work on it and no longer has to take the mac book home from work or sit on the desktop do her lesson plans.
My sister also wants to pick one up for work instead of using the provided desktop replacement that she has to lug around.
Tablets are still too immature IMO, especially the "desktop replacement" (well, laptop replacement, really) type tablets. Tech still moves hugely forward each iteration, like was the case with graphics cards back in the day. I'll wait until things settle down just a tad, and my Macbook still services me sufficiently for the moment. It'll turn two years this spring, so it's not exactly geriatric just yet, although gaming on it can be a total pain. Even a game as undemanding as The Cave or Dustforce stutters like crazy on it, which rather sucks unfortunately.
Silent_Buddha
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Yeah, if I didn't already have a Windows slate (granted an incredibly slow first gen Atom ), then I might consider the Surface Pro right now.
However, there's 2 things that keep me from pulling the trigger. First, I'm basically not getting a new slate unless it includes a keyboard dock with battery. Secondly, the tablet portion is going to have to get at least 6-8 hours of battery life when not connected to the dock.
That means Clovertrail based tablets would be just about right, but I also would like more power. And while those are faster than my first gen Atom based slate, it's not enough of a boost for me to pull the trigger on one.
So right now I'm waiting to see what 7w SDP IVB brings as well as Haswell and AMD's ULP APUs.
That said, if the Surface Pro had come with a keyboard dock with battery, I'd have been sorely tempted to buy one. Perhaps one of the 2nd gen Surface devices will tickle my fancy.
Regards,
SB
), then I might consider the Surface Pro right now.However, there's 2 things that keep me from pulling the trigger. First, I'm basically not getting a new slate unless it includes a keyboard dock with battery. Secondly, the tablet portion is going to have to get at least 6-8 hours of battery life when not connected to the dock.
That means Clovertrail based tablets would be just about right, but I also would like more power. And while those are faster than my first gen Atom based slate, it's not enough of a boost for me to pull the trigger on one.
So right now I'm waiting to see what 7w SDP IVB brings as well as Haswell and AMD's ULP APUs.
That said, if the Surface Pro had come with a keyboard dock with battery, I'd have been sorely tempted to buy one. Perhaps one of the 2nd gen Surface devices will tickle my fancy.
Regards,
SB
Yeah, if I didn't already have a Windows slate (granted an incredibly slow first gen Atom
However, there's 2 things that keep me from pulling the trigger. First, I'm basically not getting a new slate unless it includes a keyboard dock with battery. Secondly, the tablet portion is going to have to get at least 6-8 hours of battery life when not connected to the dock.
That means Clovertrail based tablets would be just about right, but I also would like more power. And while those are faster than my first gen Atom based slate, it's not enough of a boost for me to pull the trigger on one.
So right now I'm waiting to see what 7w SDP IVB brings as well as Haswell and AMD's ULP APUs.
That said, if the Surface Pro had come with a keyboard dock with battery, I'd have been sorely tempted to buy one. Perhaps one of the 2nd gen Surface devices will tickle my fancy.
Regards,
SB
That's pretty much an exact description of what Temash is supposed to bring.
Ill beleive it when I see it
Well, Hondo already delivers on battery life. The technology to use keyboard batteries efficiently is already official: http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._laptop_performance_in_hybrids?taxonomyId=154
The only thing that needs to be improved to meet SB's criteria is performance. And for what it's worth: http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1361486916
Silent_Buddha
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Yup, I'm hoping by the end of the year or possibly even summer, there will be something that meets my criteria. My current Windows slate is getting pretty long in the tooth. But it has served me well.
Regards,
SB
Regards,
SB
I'm with you.
Waiting for a longer lasting, lighter and more powerful version with at least 2 USB3 ports.
Also waiting to see if the Xbox surface rumors pan out.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
I'm starting to wonder how many of these Microsoft had made. Demand versus supply seems a bit out of whack with Amazon only having them available from 3rd parties that are seriously price gouging.
So either demand is unexpectedly high, or supply is amazingly low.
On the plus side it seems Asus might finally be catching up with demand. No noticeable price gouging on Amazon for the TF810c at the moment.
Regards,
SB
So either demand is unexpectedly high, or supply is amazingly low.
On the plus side it seems Asus might finally be catching up with demand. No noticeable price gouging on Amazon for the TF810c at the moment.
Regards,
SB
Still waiting for a UK release date and the opportunity to get my hands on one.
I'm tempted because at least on paper it mostly offers what I'm looking for. On the other hand, the second generation promises some big steps in terms of size, weight and expandability, so waiting may be the wiser choice.
Iirc the talk was that you'd have a tablet that could run 'real' applications like Photoshop or IDEs.
But to get the processing power to run those applications well, you get a thicker, heavier, noisier and power hungry device.
Intel will continue to make strides in power consumption but 10 hours without packing in a bigger battery? Then when they put in a higher dpi display?
But to get the processing power to run those applications well, you get a thicker, heavier, noisier and power hungry device.
Intel will continue to make strides in power consumption but 10 hours without packing in a bigger battery? Then when they put in a higher dpi display?
