Star Wars Discussion Thread (Movies, Books, Plotholes, etc)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Picao84, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. BRiT

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    As to the point of needing to wait 12 months, thats wrong, you need to wait 24 months. The trilogy movies are every 2 years not every year. I believe next year will be a Han Solo when younger movie and Episode 9 in 2019.
     
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    That had been my assumption too, however was told by someone who is more into these type of things that the solo movie is mid year, and the next in the trilogy is next christmas

    Solo appears to be happening in May.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_Story
    "The film is scheduled to be released on May 25, 2018."

    But appears you are right about SW9, searching indicates its Christmas 2019.
     
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    I'm with JR on the new Star Wars.
    Dropping bombs in space that fall onto a cruiser? The sheared cruiser wing falling? Ugh. A planetary surface of salt covering blood red sand and speeders that require boat-like centerboards? Evaporating Luke? Where TF did this Snoke come from and why TF can't he sense the manipulation of a light saber next to him? Is this why all light sabers now have to have those stupid warning labels?

    At least it wasn't as bad as Bright.

    Rogue One FTW
     
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    Wasn't pointless. It helps build Finn & Rose relationship. Plus, it sets up the beginning of a new generation of the Rebellion & Jedi withe kid rider at the end. I could understand if you missed that part. Not saying it's completely crucial to the plot, but it wasn't pointless.

    Tommy McClain
     
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    I suppose I meant that there was no reason given in the film for Laura Dern not to trust Po. So there was no reason not to tell him what the plan was, and telling him what the plan was would have negated the reason for the side trip. She went from being a somewhat dictatorial unreasonable character to a self-sacrificing character much more similar to leia’s (‘ I like him’), with no explanation. To me it seemed to be an unbelievable plot simply to add a mostly filler 30+ mins sequence. I concede the points you made, but dedicating 20% ( it felt like 30 mins to me, but I could be wrong), of the running time with a major side trip to do so, seems like it was more for filler than anything like the best way to do it.
     
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    yoda was a puppet in the cinema version of episode 1 because they did not have the time and ressources to do a proper CGI, it was then changed to CGI in latest DVD/bluray release

     
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    ^Then, why...
     
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    nostalgia !
     
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    Oh dear, didn't know that. Thanks!

    Tommy McClain
     
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    Here's another bit of plot stupidity which nobody else seems to have mentioned:

    If it is possible to fire a ship into another at light speed as an extremely effective weapon, why not just use the other large vessels (which were instead left to run out of fuel and be destroyed) as relativistic weapons and take out the boss ship and some of the escorts whilst the final vessel continued to 'flee'? Or, for that matter, smaller light-speed capable vessels such as an X-wing, which would surely generate enough energy at relativistic speeds to take out even a star destroyer? And why did Admiral Dern wait until most of the smaller vessels fleeing for the salty planet base had been picked off after their discovery before making her suicide run?

    On a larger scale, if you could fly ships as light-speed weapons, there wouldn't be any such thing as a capital ship because it would make too easy a target. I'd always assumed that Star Wars lightspeed was some sort of a 'hyperspace' thing so line of sight wasn't really an issue, but suddenly not, it would seem.
     
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    LOL. You would think someone would of thought a hyperdrive based cruise missle in between coming up with moon size contraptions that could blow up planets, if ramming a starship at light speed was feasible.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Yeah, couldn't be bothered to look up the name of her character!
     
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    Yeah, it reminds me of an episode of Deep Space Nine, I think it was, where Sisko & Co were battling to disarm a large (Cardassian?) missile with strong shields which was heading for the sun and which would make it supernova.

    The fact that such a technology would mean the end of any planetary civilisation obviously hadn't occurred to the writers. After all, it would be easy to kill off a whole star system with just one such ship/missile. Good job they didn't just warp it in close to the sun and then set it off, eh?
     
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    When she moved to the pilot seat I immediately assumed she was going for the kamikaze run, and raised my brows at how the hell that is going to work. The SW universe physics seem pretty vague in many aspects, but on a second thought it might be feasible: To me it seems that SW vessels (at least smaller ships) first accelerate to a high velocity in normal space, to 'gain energy' sufficiently for 'crossing over the barrier to hyperspace'. So at short range just before the actual hyperspace travel starts, there is potential for relativistic kamikaze bomber. I seem to recall Han Solo saying in ep.5 that engaging hyperdrive in asteroid field would be a bad idea.
    IMO, this is not as questionable as a plot device as the dropping of bombs in space, or the abysmal range of the star destroyers' weaponry (zero effect on shields when increasing the distance a couple of hundred meters). Although the latter might be consistent with previous installations. There really does not seem to be any point in creating huge ships in SW universe, except for intimidation purposes. Well the bad guys have been established as morons from the start, anyway.
     
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    Didn't see it being mentioned, but I hated making the First Order look like a complete joke in the beginning. The commander being stupid and not realizing Poe was just pulling his leg, and a single tie fighter being able to destroy the weaponry on an unharmed stardestroyer so a single bomb ship can blow it up.
    And they really shouldn't have said that that ship and crew was what remained of the rebellion.

    The main story being about the ship needing fuel felt more like what you'd expect from a Firefly episode, not a big budget 2+ hours movie. I don't think they've even mentioned the word fuel in any of the previous movies?

    I agree with most complaints about the movie. Overall though, I liked it more than TFA. It had a more glooming theme than TFA, and even though Rey still is way too good, at least she didn't kick Kylo's ass this time . While watching the trailers, I even thought she'd resist Snoke, like she did against Kylo in TFA, but thankfully she got owned.
     
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    I kinda liked The Last Jedi for some of its ballsiness (that said, they chickened out when ballsiness really would have mattered in the long run). Amazing action choreography and vfx work as well. That said, even by schlocky block buster standards, this was one hell of a stupid film. It also leaves the new trilogy in a weird spot. I mean, where the hell are they supposed to go with it now?
     
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    Like Mariner said: The physics really are not what's bothersome. It's always been WWII fighter planes cum Navy vessels in space, so who cares whether bombs are being dropped or not. The creator of the franchise used the term parsec without bothering to check what it meant in the first place for crying out loud. The implementaion of SW's fantasy physics used to be relatively consistent, though. (same with The Force really) That's not the case anymore now. If lightspeed can indeed be weaponized, why the hell has nobody ever thought of this before. This is a monumental game changer.
     
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    Do you mean when Rey did not give her hand to Kylo?
     
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