30fps is not a perfect framerate
*split* multiplatform console-world problems + Image Quality Debate
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If you don't know, then look it up or don't say. BTW It was neither.
Steve Dave Part Deux
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They all come from the same perpetuating propaganda factory, you guys have been eating it all up until now.
Ravidrath
Lab Zero Games
09-12-2013, 01:06 AM
This is anecdotal from E3, but...
I've heard the architecture with the ESRAM is actually a major hurdle in development because you need to manually fill and flush it.
So unless MS's APIs have improved to the point that this is essentially automatic, the bandwidth and hardware speed are probably irrelevant.
For reference, the story going around E3 went something like this:
"ATVI was doing the CoD: Ghosts port to nextgen. It took three weeks for PS4 and came out at 90 FPS unoptimized, and four months on Xbone and came out at 15 FPS."
Ravidrath
Lab Zero Games
09-12-2013, 01:06 AM
This is anecdotal from E3, but...
I've heard the architecture with the ESRAM is actually a major hurdle in development because you need to manually fill and flush it.
So unless MS's APIs have improved to the point that this is essentially automatic, the bandwidth and hardware speed are probably irrelevant.
For reference, the story going around E3 went something like this:
"ATVI was doing the CoD: Ghosts port to nextgen. It took three weeks for PS4 and came out at 90 FPS unoptimized, and four months on Xbone and came out at 15 FPS."
That supposedly came from a Dev @ E3.
No matter how you cut it, giving the PS4 version of the game a significantly lower score (6.5 versus 7.0) because of a framerate drops (which I highly doubt extend below 40fps at worst-case) is extremely, EXTREMELY suspect. This is especially true considering that day one patches for either the game or the PS4 itself may resolve such issues.
There's also the fact that IGN's Xbox One versus PS4 comparison video states, "The framerates are, as always, locked at a smooth 60 frames per second, with only the odd minor hiccup on PS4." That's a far cry from Polygon's claims of "consistent framerate drops." [Source]
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The same "propaganda factory" that leaked the Xbox One versions of Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty: Ghosts running at 720p? Or a different propaganda factory altogether?
Hint: It's a different propaganda factory.
Don't attribute the false leaks of one unreliable insider to other insiders that have proven themselves to be (mostly) accurate over the years.
SP not MP
Jeff from Giantbomb (paraphrasing) mentioned frame rate issues with the PS4 but said the resolution differences were noticeable. He said as of right now he'd call it a draw but if there is a patch things would likely swing in the PS4 favor.
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/a-...nfo/1100-4785/
Interesting the Videogamer review mentioned that they did not experience framerate issues:
http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/ca...lefield_4.html
Gameinformer noted in their review that they could not detect any difference between versions:
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ca...-xbox-one.aspx
It will be interesting to see what DF has to say about all this...
So the big news about the PS4 resolution hasn't been dropped yet?
If not then I still have time toto my shelter along with AlNets.
If you're talking about the PS4 version being 1080p (with the Xbox One version being 720p), that was confirmed a while ago.
Nope. That's not it.
Oh come on. I thought these silly teases were the exclusive domain of NeoGAF mods.
If it's really "big news" as you say, then my guess would be that the PS4 features a dynamic resolution (down to as low as 720p, even?) to stabilize framerate? Either that, or the PS4 version actually runs at a slightly higher res than 1080p (for whatever reason).
If it's something mundane like, "PS4 version is actually 900p," then that's not fallout-shelter worthy imo.
Oh come on. I thought these silly teases were the exclusive domain of NeoGAF mods.
If it's really "big news" as you say, then my guess would be that the PS4 features a dynamic resolution (down to as low as 720p, even?) to stabilize framerate? Either that, or the PS4 version actually runs at a slightly higher res than 1080p (for whatever reason).
If it's something mundane like, "PS4 version is actually 900p," then that's not fallout-shelter worthy imo.
The truth is that the PS4 is actually running the XB1 version via an emulator
It turned out it was quicker to emulate the XB1 than it was to actually write the code for the PS4...
The version of CoD they saw was the same build. All these reviews are based off the versions they were getting at the review event yesterday in that one rented out hotel.
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1962ffr3326fojpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
http://kotaku.com/sonys-big-ps4-launch-event-1462204137
Lucid_Dreamer
Veteran
Isn't the PC version having the exact issues as the PS4 version? That should mean a patch is certain. Or, according to Polygon, the Xbox One version will be the definitive version.
Didn't they score all platform versions the same, except the Xbox One version?Isn't the PC version having the exact issues as the PS4 version? That should mean a patch is certain. Or, according to Polygon, the Xbox One version will be the definitive version.
What's funny is that you can probably just set your PS4 to only output at 720p, and then the game would likely run at the same (if not better) framerate than the Xbox One version.
Oh, Polygon.
