I was glad Sony published that video. There's a lot of people forgetting that Sony has been beating the AR drum far longer and louder than Nintendo (including game journos. I had to write Gamespot to correct a story on this point). And I've seen far too many people jumping through all sorts of rhetorical hoops trying to credit the 3DS for the innovation. IE: "It's the first dedicated handheld gaming platform with a integrated camera for AR gaming..." That's a lot of convoluted and arbitrary conditions needed to discount the Eye Toy, PS Eye, PSP Camera and iPhones. And the additional processing power in the NGP should allow for even more sophisticated applications than the 3DS can manage.
Sony's Next Generation Portable unveiling - PSP2 in disguise
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I was glad Sony published that video. There's a lot of people forgetting that Sony has been beating the AR drum far longer and louder than Nintendo (including game journos. I had to write Gamespot to correct a story on this point). And I've seen far too many people jumping through all sorts of rhetorical hoops trying to credit the 3DS for the innovation. IE: "It's the first dedicated handheld gaming platform with a integrated camera for AR gaming..." That's a lot of convoluted and arbitrary conditions needed to discount the Eye Toy, PS Eye, PSP Camera and iPhones. And the additional processing power in the NGP should allow for even more sophisticated applications than the 3DS can manage.
to be honest the media make me sick lol
they are quick to say things like
"3DS like Augmented Reality"
or "Kinect like controller-free gameplay"
when talking about something sony is doing as if sony was stealing the idea then the fanboys run with it.
they have already started with the NGP Augmented Reality demos saying that they are trying to copy the 3DS AR Cards.
like they never seen
to be honest the media make me sick lol
they are quick to say things like
"3DS like Augmented Reality"
or "Kinect like controller-free gameplay"
when talking about something sony is doing as if sony was stealing the idea then the fanboys run with it.
they have already started with the NGP Augmented Reality demos saying that they are trying to copy the 3DS AR Cards.
like they never seen
I think it largely has to do with the 3DS putting the feature available out-of-the-box and integrating it with their already established Mii system. As for Kinect, Mircosoft invested alot of money to advertise it, and Dance Central is probably the major contributors to sell the idea. Sony showcased the hardware, but they didn't have the software or marketing to turn more people's head to sell the idea.
they was saying this before the 3DS even released,
Actually, I think it speaks more to a general ignorance of, or unwillingness to acknowledge, Sony innovations.
Marketing and general ignorance go hand in hand. People wait for the information to come to them, so if Nintendo are first to say, "look what we did," in a way that people hear, they'll be the ones to get credit.
That's an excuse for the lay person, not for people who cover gaming professionally. Nor does it excuse those who refuse to acknowledge Sony's contributions even when they are pointed out.
back on topic:
I think NGP is going to have some of the best AR games we have every seen because it's Sony's 4th Gen of AR products & it's being built with AR in mind as a feature with a CPU & GPGPU that's really good at video processing & things like that, add that in with the sensors that's inside of NGP & you have a lot that can be done ,
& I have reasons to believe that the Camera will be higher res than PS Eye & it will not be limited by the speed of USB2 because it's made onto the NGP. so I'm thinking
960 x 544 60FPS or 30FPS
640x480 60FPS
480 x 272 120FPS
The PSP Camera was
320x240 15fps
320x240 30fps
480x272 15fps
480x272 30fps
by the way this is the game that Richard Marks was talking about years ago saying that you and someone else could have your PSP's pointing at a coffee table playing a Fighting game & it would look like the fighters was in the room.
I think NGP is going to have some of the best AR games we have every seen because it's Sony's 4th Gen of AR products & it's being built with AR in mind as a feature with a CPU & GPGPU that's really good at video processing & things like that, add that in with the sensors that's inside of NGP & you have a lot that can be done ,
& I have reasons to believe that the Camera will be higher res than PS Eye & it will not be limited by the speed of USB2 because it's made onto the NGP. so I'm thinking
960 x 544 60FPS or 30FPS
640x480 60FPS
480 x 272 120FPS
The PSP Camera was
320x240 15fps
320x240 30fps
480x272 15fps
480x272 30fps
by the way this is the game that Richard Marks was talking about years ago saying that you and someone else could have your PSP's pointing at a coffee table playing a Fighting game & it would look like the fighters was in the room.
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AR multiplayer Diablo game, where game procedurally generate dungeon walls on the table surface [either fixed walls where player can move across the table or, player is fixed and walls are moving around him].
Make it happen Sony. UNTOLD LEGENDS: AR WARRIORS
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Also, online multiplayer AR game? Lets say this diablo hack&slasher. Few players play game at their home, on different surfaces, but dungeon layout is the same for all, and player position is updated over wifi/3g.
Make it happen Sony. UNTOLD LEGENDS: AR WARRIORS
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Also, online multiplayer AR game? Lets say this diablo hack&slasher. Few players play game at their home, on different surfaces, but dungeon layout is the same for all, and player position is updated over wifi/3g.
Many of the current stereoscopic and autostereoscopic 3D technologies are too unrefined for comfortable viewing outside media playback, being more likely to serve as a distraction than an enhancement to a GUI or productivity app.
A mix of head/eye tracking, device orientation sensing, and some AR, though, could be utilized to add some useful dimension to a variety of apps even under the current level of camera and sensor technologies.
A mix of head/eye tracking, device orientation sensing, and some AR, though, could be utilized to add some useful dimension to a variety of apps even under the current level of camera and sensor technologies.
being able to use anything as your tracking point means that the AR will look more natural because they can place the AR right on the objects with no cards or anything in the way, & with the sensors added to the camera tracking, we should be able to just walk around things like the fighters & see them from all angles without the tracking becoming unstable.
Vision Game Engine for NGP Real-time Tech Demo
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/04/13/ngp-real-time-tech-demo-of-vision-game-engine/
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More information about the Vision Game Engine
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[strike]That's a truly pointless PR soundbite. The GPU handles threads and cores itself, transparently to the developer. Maybe he's getting confused with multithreading their engine for the 4 core CPU?[/strike]
Edit: Me being brain-dead!
