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Just turn Home into an MMO already!
http://www.alphazone4.com/2010/07/jack-buser-on-playstation-home-big-announcement-on-monday
... up from 50-60 minutes I think ?
Original source:
http://www.psxextreme.com/feature/609-1.html
... up from 50-60 minutes I think ?
Original source:
http://www.psxextreme.com/feature/609-1.html
Ha ha yeah... they got one thing right so far, which is to focus on gamers only/first. Otherwise, they'd have gone the way of Google Lively already. 
Unfortunately, IMHO, they wasted a lot of resources to get here. It looks like they are slowly adjusting and getting back on track.
Instead of simplifying the UI and go the utility route, they decided to become a destination itself. I think the base will be (much) smaller this way, but they may have more avenues to make money if the users like Home enough.
Either way, they need to build a dedicated user base first, and then they can promote other brands more effectively. I reckon most of the advertisers will still prefer FaceBook and other Internet channels due to their sheer population size _and_ equally targeted nature. However, the strength in Home is that users are spending inside Home itself. These purchases can include other brand consumption not just exposure or clickthroughs. If they can sustain the train, it'd complement the advertising revenue nicely.
I still hate how the characters' faces look like dead fish sometimes. Still dislike the UI.
I suppose Trophy Room for Home would be an attraction. Very interested to see the impact (assuming Sony doesn't trip over themselves). I hope they allow us to wager our Home items/reputation away (in PS3 games) like we mentioned when Home was first launched.
They also lack persistent user content (e.g., forum) to keep us coming back every day. This may or may not be a good thing, depending on their business goals.
Unfortunately, IMHO, they wasted a lot of resources to get here. It looks like they are slowly adjusting and getting back on track.
Instead of simplifying the UI and go the utility route, they decided to become a destination itself. I think the base will be (much) smaller this way, but they may have more avenues to make money if the users like Home enough.
Either way, they need to build a dedicated user base first, and then they can promote other brands more effectively. I reckon most of the advertisers will still prefer FaceBook and other Internet channels due to their sheer population size _and_ equally targeted nature. However, the strength in Home is that users are spending inside Home itself. These purchases can include other brand consumption not just exposure or clickthroughs. If they can sustain the train, it'd complement the advertising revenue nicely.
I still hate how the characters' faces look like dead fish sometimes. Still dislike the UI.
I suppose Trophy Room for Home would be an attraction. Very interested to see the impact (assuming Sony doesn't trip over themselves). I hope they allow us to wager our Home items/reputation away (in PS3 games) like we mentioned when Home was first launched.
They also lack persistent user content (e.g., forum) to keep us coming back every day. This may or may not be a good thing, depending on their business goals.
http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/0...nerate-new-games-for-sony-home-virtual-world/
I seriously don't mind one of those ARG games again (like Xi) so that I can take the kid out for a treasure hunt in the real world somewhere. ^_^
If they can somehow unify all PSN games, and FaceBook games into this world, it'd be to Sony's advantage also.
I seriously don't mind one of those ARG games again (like Xi) so that I can take the kid out for a treasure hunt in the real world somewhere. ^_^
If they can somehow unify all PSN games, and FaceBook games into this world, it'd be to Sony's advantage also.
The Home team is claiming more success here:
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/07/22/playstation-home-sales-3x-stronger-than-last-year/
* 3x revenue increase
* Double registered users
...since last year.
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/07/22/playstation-home-sales-3x-stronger-than-last-year/
* 3x revenue increase
* Double registered users
...since last year.
Don't quite know where to put this:
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/07/27/sony-playstation-introduces-logo-licensing-program/
...but it's something Home can benefit from by introducing equivalent virtual items when a PSN user bought the physical version.
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/07/27/sony-playstation-introduces-logo-licensing-program/
...but it's something Home can benefit from by introducing equivalent virtual items when a PSN user bought the physical version.
Well, they did also release average time visited in Home, return visits, revenue increase, etc. But yes, a counter that says 'x numbers of users currently online' like Skype has, say, would be nice.
The interesting numbers would probably include: revenue, conversion ratio (% users who buy stuff in Home), active users, registered users, stickiness (hours in Home doing meaning things, not just idling), and growth/churn trend for the above parameters.
Number of concurrent users is important for Ops people.
For end users, it's also a proxy indicator for a community's vibrancy. But it's somewhat messed up by the 64 user per instance limit. There is also no persistent content, so we can't see the impact of other users. I expect the concurrent users figure to stagnate or fluctuate based on events.
If they are going to show stats to the end users, I prefer them to show something we can use directly. e.g., what's the most popular activity now and all-time ? Who is the most popular user ? Plus other user ratings (highlighting UI issues, funniest chat, etc.)
Number of concurrent users is important for Ops people.
For end users, it's also a proxy indicator for a community's vibrancy. But it's somewhat messed up by the 64 user per instance limit. There is also no persistent content, so we can't see the impact of other users. I expect the concurrent users figure to stagnate or fluctuate based on events.
If they are going to show stats to the end users, I prefer them to show something we can use directly. e.g., what's the most popular activity now and all-time ? Who is the most popular user ? Plus other user ratings (highlighting UI issues, funniest chat, etc.)
How's the StarWars Cantina ? Is it packed with aliens or the usual human avatars ?
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...tation-home-exclusive-star-wars-events-items/
The blog doesn't say if there's a mini-game in the Cantina. The voucher hunting activity sounds more like a campaign.
EDIT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/technology/09drill.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
... which is why Sony should simplify PS Home UI further. Home can be a good platform to integrate lifestyle with gaming.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...tation-home-exclusive-star-wars-events-items/
The blog doesn't say if there's a mini-game in the Cantina. The voucher hunting activity sounds more like a campaign.
EDIT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/technology/09drill.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
... which is why Sony should simplify PS Home UI further. Home can be a good platform to integrate lifestyle with gaming.
corduroygt
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As I said before, integrate into OS or just stop wasting money on it. Why can't we have our own Home apartment instead of dynamic themes? Is the PS3 too slow to handle it?
Logged into PS Home to check out the Cantina. It's not completed yet. The back section is closed off (says "Coming soon"). The 10-20 posters on the wall are empty. There is also no organized activity or MP mini-games in the pub.
Just a small group of people like in every other not-so-famous spaces. Good concept but inadequate execution. Perhaps rushing for the 30th anniversary for "The Empire Strikes Back" ?
Come on, gimme the full version with mini-games post-haste. ^_^
EDIT: Do this Space Invader game in the Cantina arcade !
http://kotaku.com/5609548/only-imperial-stormtroopers-are-so-precise
Just a small group of people like in every other not-so-famous spaces. Good concept but inadequate execution. Perhaps rushing for the 30th anniversary for "The Empire Strikes Back" ?
Come on, gimme the full version with mini-games post-haste. ^_^
EDIT: Do this Space Invader game in the Cantina arcade !
http://kotaku.com/5609548/only-imperial-stormtroopers-are-so-precise
http://www.alphazone4.com/2010/08/see-gamescom-and-playstation-move-in-playstation-home-this-month:
Hopefully, they will make PS Home friendly to the new controllers.
Source: http://fr.playstation.com/psn/news/..._FR&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Hopefully, they will make PS Home friendly to the new controllers.
Source: http://fr.playstation.com/psn/news/..._FR&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/...dated-a-man-on-playstation-home/td-p/46030021
[Shakes fist at heaven]
"Where is the justice in thiiiisssss ?!"
[Shakes fist at heaven]
"Where is the justice in thiiiisssss ?!"
Saw this report, thought it fits PS Home's current business model:
http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/20...he-next-three-years-according-to-the-ind.html
I have seen groupies gift expensive virtual goods to their favorite idols, models, celebs.
[size=-2]... or virtual girlfriends like the one above.[/size]
Not sure about people buying branded virtual goods for themselves. May be the hardcore Home users do. I don't have the figures.
http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/20...he-next-three-years-according-to-the-ind.html
I have seen groupies gift expensive virtual goods to their favorite idols, models, celebs.
[size=-2]... or virtual girlfriends like the one above.[/size]
Not sure about people buying branded virtual goods for themselves. May be the hardcore Home users do. I don't have the figures.
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010...ne-poker-mag-armour-and-huge-lockwood-update/
Lots of stuff as (almost) usual now, but of note I think is the poker table you can get for your own club/personal space and the lobster suit which has its own animation for walking.
Lots of stuff as (almost) usual now, but of note I think is the poker table you can get for your own club/personal space and the lobster suit which has its own animation for walking.
I ventured into Home tonight since I reached a milestone at work. It'd be my last visit until probably 2-3 months later -- unless there's something special.
I guess the Community Theater is one of the key user movement in Home. User generated video podcasts are shown in one of the cinemas. I am not a podcast person. The crowd seems to enjoy the show since they stayed throughout the whole session. Hope to see more user content throughout Home. If possible, the best LBP & Modnation creators, the SingStar gamers, and the best scoring gamers should have their work/results exposed to us. It'd give me more sense of who PS3 gamers are. While gaming, some of them may not behave well. ^_^
Also went to the Hudson space. What's amazing about this space is it only took 2-3 seconds to download on my office PS3lol. The space is rather simple and abstract. I think if they spend more time on the design, the Home developers can make an even more elegant space (like Apple products). You can teleport between a few spots quickly. Technically, this is done by sending a quick request to the server to update your position. If a few people tried to teleport at once, the server will serialize the sequence (You may get a dialog ^_^).
There is a dolphin racing game in this space (You place bets on the dolphins). It looks like a server based game since the client code is small. While the dolphins race around the space, you can also see other gamers' text chat.
It looks a like simple prototype for more interesting game in the future. I kinda like where they are heading.
The Home folks are as friendly as I remembered them. Since we were with dolphins, people talked about animal cruelty (and Japanese fishermen killing Dolphins while hunting for Tunas). Got yet another friends request from a girl (sigh~ I'm out of the market already. What to do ?). Hope to jump into Home a few months later to be surprised.
EDIT: Oh yes, I saw a Move motion controller avatar yesterday. It's basically a floating Move controller with 2 gloves/hands. I thought the avatar should be a motion controller and a nav controller in each hand. That way it's more interesting and expressive. ;-)
I guess the Community Theater is one of the key user movement in Home. User generated video podcasts are shown in one of the cinemas. I am not a podcast person. The crowd seems to enjoy the show since they stayed throughout the whole session. Hope to see more user content throughout Home. If possible, the best LBP & Modnation creators, the SingStar gamers, and the best scoring gamers should have their work/results exposed to us. It'd give me more sense of who PS3 gamers are. While gaming, some of them may not behave well. ^_^
Also went to the Hudson space. What's amazing about this space is it only took 2-3 seconds to download on my office PS3
lol. The space is rather simple and abstract. I think if they spend more time on the design, the Home developers can make an even more elegant space (like Apple products). You can teleport between a few spots quickly. Technically, this is done by sending a quick request to the server to update your position. If a few people tried to teleport at once, the server will serialize the sequence (You may get a dialog ^_^).There is a dolphin racing game in this space (You place bets on the dolphins). It looks like a server based game since the client code is small. While the dolphins race around the space, you can also see other gamers' text chat.
It looks a like simple prototype for more interesting game in the future. I kinda like where they are heading.
The Home folks are as friendly as I remembered them. Since we were with dolphins, people talked about animal cruelty (and Japanese fishermen killing Dolphins while hunting for Tunas). Got yet another friends request from a girl (sigh~ I'm out of the market already. What to do ?). Hope to jump into Home a few months later to be surprised.
EDIT: Oh yes, I saw a Move motion controller avatar yesterday. It's basically a floating Move controller with 2 gloves/hands. I thought the avatar should be a motion controller and a nav controller in each hand. That way it's more interesting and expressive. ;-)
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