Silent Hill 3 DEMO

The only 2 things that let down SH3 are the sluggish controls and the pathetic lip syncing. It looks so dumb you just have to :LOL: at it, the only game this gen that does excellent lip syncing IMO is The Getaway and maybe Primal :?
 
Well, it's much easier to lip sync flapping lips than whole face and facial expressions like SH3 is doing... Besides, if demo is any indication, it won't win any lip syncing awards, but it's not that bad at all, considering it's attempting the kind of lip sync usually reserved for off line rendered films :)
 
marconelly! said:
Well, it's much easier to lip sync flapping lips than whole face and facial expressions like SH3 is doing... Besides, if demo is any indication, it won't win any lip syncing awards, but it's not that bad at all, considering it's attempting the kind of lip sync usually reserved for off line rendered films :)

Played it through 3+ times (captured all those real time cut-scene movies, ha ha), lip sync is a little bit off but noticeable, some cut-scene off by more, some less. I hope they will fix this problem with the Japanese version and the US version.
 
I think lip syncing was excellent in SH3.
I even think it is the best I've seen, at least compared to for example MGS2 and FFX, two other character driven games.

Maybe it just looks so good to my eye, because the character's faces in SH3 are so expressive overall, Heather and Douglas show more emotions in their faces than the entire cast of both Matrix films combined (ahhh! so this is what Sony meant with Emotion Engine being able to do 'emotions' ;) ).
The lip movement is often a little too exaggarated thoug, especially Heathers. It makes some facial animations look quite cartoony, and then the sync does seem to be a little bit off

There are many subtle facial animations in SH3, just look aroud Douglas's eyes when he is talking, he seems to have even those wrinkles between his eyebrows modelled and animated.
 
Yeah, faces are a bit overanimated, but that gives them distinctiveness that surpasses even the pre-rendered stuff from SH2, where all too often characters looked a bit lifeless. Now you can clearly see when Heather is frightened, for example, and it's not just the face, but the way she moves... It's freaky in itself actually. You can tell how much effort went into all that.
 
zurich said:
Hahaha, just got the Dog Ending, that was some GREAT stuff (Dog was modeled/textured/animated well too :p). Best part had to be seeing James shirtless in the credits though :D

What about Maria in bikini! :p
 
zurich said:
Deepak said:
zurich said:
Hahaha, just got the Dog Ending, that was some GREAT stuff (Dog was modeled/textured/animated well too :p). Best part had to be seeing James shirtless in the credits though :D

What about Maria in bikini! :p

Pffft.

A fellow nettizen sent me an Silent Hill 2 UFO ending clip, it is on my page now (along with 2 clips edited and transcoded from that with permission).

http://www.felixmcli.org/silenthill.html
 
Ya, got that off Kazaa too Maskrider.. sort of wierd, I guess you need to have played SH1 to understand it ;)

Out of all the SH2 endings (UFO, Leave, Maria, Water, Dog), I think I 'like' the Dog ending the most, as its just plain hysterical, but the most moving of them all has to be 'Water'. Hell, its the closest thing to suicide any game is going to get to! I'm sure SCE/ESRB must have given them hell for that :p
 
the water ending is downright depressing and a real suprise when I got it.

I've heard that the Xbox version in the US carried a slightly for explicit version, does anyone know?
 
Water ending is the one I got, and I loved it. I agree with Zurich, they probably had problems with ESRB... Still, they managed to pull it off making it completely obvious what happened without showing anything.
 
Maskrider, for some reason none of my media players (WM9, Real Player, DivX player) cannot open open some movies I download from you (for example SH3 Valatiel game over, SH2 ufo ending).
Do I need some special codec for them?

Edit: Correction, I was able to open the UFO ending, but not the 'game over' file.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Maskrider, for some reason none of my media players (WM9, Real Player, DivX player) cannot open open some movies I download from you (for example SH3 Valatiel game over, SH2 ufo ending).
Do I need some special codec for them?

Edit: Correction, I was able to open the UFO ending, but not the 'game over' file.

Use PowerDVD or WinDVD for MPEG files, or just download the WMV files and play with WMP9.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Maskrider, for some reason none of my media players (WM9, Real Player, DivX player) cannot open open some movies I download from you (for example SH3 Valatiel game over, SH2 ufo ending).
Do I need some special codec for them?

Edit: Correction, I was able to open the UFO ending, but not the 'game over' file.

BTW, you said you were able to play the SH2 UFO ending, but which one ?

MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or WMV ?

WMV and MPEG-2 files were transcoded from the original MPEG-1 file. I tried using 353x240 CBR than the the other 320x240 VBR for that file as a test.
 
It was the MPEG-1 file, I think.
OK, I didn't notice you had them in different formats, I'll try the WMV's.
My PC is a low-spec PII 300MHz, so it may have difficulties running the newer formats.
Thanks.
 
I have also bought the Japanese version today, which has a bonus CD with 5 tracks. Have scanned some images of the box and manual. Check my Silent Hill page if you are interested.

http://www.felixmcli.org/silenthill.html

sh3-jpn-box.jpg
 
I am only at the mall, looks like lip sync is fixed, at least in the first mall cut scene. And the graphics look a bit cleaner to me, I will compare them again to double check it is my problem or it is really cleaner, or may be the output of my old SCPH-10000 is better than my SCPH-39004.
 
maskrider said:
I have also bought the Japanese version today, which has a bonus CD with 5 tracks. Have scanned some images of the box and manual. Check my Silent Hill page if you are interested.

How is music?? Does it stand up to SH1/2??
 
Deepak said:
maskrider said:
I have also bought the Japanese version today, which has a bonus CD with 5 tracks. Have scanned some images of the box and manual. Check my Silent Hill page if you are interested.

How is music?? Does it stand up to SH1/2??

Listening to it with my STAX/Wadia at the moment, "You're not here" never sounded that good from the PS2, ha ha!

BTW, the music is great, to me, they stand up to SH2 at least.
 
Well, memory can be deceiving. The graphics is as clean as before, and the lip sync in that first mall (Douglas and Heather) sequence is indeed the same.

One fact is that, using the same S-Video cable (original Sony product), the different version game on different version console are producing slightly different colour screens.

PAL version
pal-01.JPG


Japanese version
jap-01.JPG


And the heros behind Silent Hill 3 (from a recent issue of Dengeki Games)

teamsilent.jpg
 
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