RV560/570 Gemini roadmap

[trumphsiao]

http://www.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?t=651843

 

[Skrying]

I'm loving the new coolers. Thanks for the pics. :smile:

What is the other unused bridge for?

Second bridge connector possibly for it to interact with a third card for physics?

 

[no-X]

Nice, so this new X1900GT has almost the same PCB as X1950PRO - only w/o support for internal CF bridge.

Skrying: there is no CF connector on this card

 

[satein]

I think probably a dedicated bridge is not needed as X1900GT are allowed to make CF via PCI-e 16 already (isn't it?). The second thing is that the chip might not have internal bridge hardware, thus cut-it-off would be a save bet for anyone confusion

 

[Skrying]

Nice, so this new X1900GT has almost the same PCB as X1950PRO - only w/o support for internal CF bridge.

Skrying: there is no CF connector on this card

Refering to the X1950 Pro, sorry didnt think of anyone to quote, so I see how that is confusing.

 

[INKster]

The core looks way too big to be a RV570, although i might be mislead by that huge chunk of thermal paste.

 

[no-X]

It IS R580 (A22 or A31) because the pictured card is X1900GT (the new 512/1320 HDCP revision)

 

[INKster]

It IS R580 (A22 or A31) because the pictured card is X1900GT (the new 512/1320 HDCP revision)

If that's the case, what is it doing in this thread ?
This was supposed to be the RV560/RV570 place...

 

[no-X]

If that's the case, what is it doing in this thread ?

Confusing?

 

[CJ]

It seems like something is going to happen on the 17th of October.

 

[vertex_shader]

It seems like something is going to happen on the 17th of October.

Thats not good, rv560/570 already late

Daliytech has some news: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4166
Reference card running 580mhz core (rumors say 600mhz before) and 1400mhz memory clock, not so great yields? or ATi make some room for the AIB OC cards? (my dream is HIS iceq cooling x1950pro with 640/1550 clock speed, and for 199euro

HDCP optional, this is good, i not want pay someting what can't use for 2010-2012 :smile:

 

[CJ]

It seems Dailytech saw the same document that also mentions the 17th of October. But somehow they forgot to mention the date and are vague about it... lol, I wonder why they just didn't just say it out loud. Oh well, the cat is out of the bag now.

 

[Sunrise]

It seems Dailytech saw the same document that also mentions...

Oh, did your Source tell you that?

 

[CJ]

Fuad has heard about the 17th too....

http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=34401

This time he corrects his mistake that he made in this article (http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=34025) in which he wrote that RV560 was a RV530 on 80nm with 12 pixelshader engines. He corrected it to 24 pixelshader engines. Unfortunately he this time makes the mistake of calling RV570 'the new X1900GT' instead of X1950Pro.

 

[chavvdarrr]

Unfortunately he this time makes the mistake of calling RV570 'the new X1900GT' instead of X1950Pro.

eh, is there anyone in his mind, able to tell the difference between all kinds of x1300/1600/1650/1800/1900/1950's combined with se/pro/xt/gt/gto/OMFG or 6100/6150/6200/6600/6800/7300/7600/7800/7900 with tc/le/gs/gt/gtx/gx2/pleasehelpmeimgoinginsane ?!

 

[trumphsiao]

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/news.php?tid=669300


R580 and RV570 are equally same die size.

 

[vertex_shader]

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/news.php?tid=669300


R580 and RV570 are equally same die size.

Rv570 looks much smaller than the r580.

 

[trumphsiao]

Rv570 looks much smaller than the r580.

Chinese Article did state RV570 is almost as big as R580.

 

[Kaotik]

eh, is there anyone in his mind, able to tell the difference between all kinds of x1300/1600/1650/1800/1900/1950's combined with se/pro/xt/gt/gto/OMFG or 6100/6150/6200/6600/6800/7300/7600/7800/7900 with tc/le/gs/gt/gtx/gx2/pleasehelpmeimgoinginsane ?!

IIRC:
(PS/TMU/ROP)
X1300 4/4/4
X1600 12/4/4
X1650 12/4/4
These have regardless of SE/WTF/WhatEver the same amount of each unit)
X1800 16/16/16 (regardless of the SE/blahbla)
X1900GT 36/16/12 (in practice, 36/12/12)
X1950 Pro 36/12/12
X1900 XT 48/16/16
X1900 XTX 48/16/16
X1950 XTX 48/16/16
All the differences apart from the ones mentioned here, are in clocks and/or memory amounts.
Oh, and I think 1300-1600 have 128bit membus, while X1800 and up 256bit

 

[vertex_shader]

Chinese Article did state RV570 is almost as big as R580.

80nm value chip have the same size as a 90nm highend chip? sounds weird, maybe they need new glasses (or me? ) , when i look this 2 picture, rv570 looks much smaller.