RV560/570 Gemini roadmap

But this is just too confusing, because i haven't seen a direct comparison between RV570 and the 7950 GT

X1950 Pro will be $200, 7950 GT will be $300. They are not competitors.

You can get the X1900 XT 512MB from online us retailers right now for around $300 so I don't personally see how the 7950 GT is any kind of deal.
 
X1950 Pro will be $200, 7950 GT will be $300. They are not competitors.

You can get the X1900 XT 512MB from online us retailers right now for around $300 so I don't personally see how the 7950 GT is any kind of deal.

X1950 Pro is the RV560, not the RV570, i think.

Anyway, i've decided to wait for DX10 cards.
Now i want leaks about R600 and G80 to decide this for good. :D
 
RV570 12X3 ALUs 12 TMUs 256bit
RV560 12X3 ALUs 12TMUs 128bit

:devilish: but BOM cost is too high, sigh...............

RV560 is not 12x3. It's 8x3. It has 24 pixelshaderengines and works at 600Mhz core and 1400Mhz GDDR3 128-bit mem-interface.
 
Well, without specific ATI or AMD corporate branding present, it could be that the slides are either generic/temporary internal templates that DailyTech have simply watermarked while any branding issues in this regard are worked through in the merger, or they could perhaps be DailyTech created slides based on other ATI/AIB correspondence.

Something I can't understand is why ATI have so far neglected the X1700 nomenclature for RV560, instead relegating it to being marketed as X1650XT, which given the massive (speculated) performance difference between X1650 Pro (RV530/RV535), i.e. 8-1-3-1/2 in RV560 versus 4-1-3-2 in RV530/5, is going to confuse a lot of casual buyers and possibly even some less attentive enthusiasts.

Perhaps X1700 is being kept for a mobile RV560? Keeping the X1700 moniker for a spring refresh (e.g. RV560/RV570 at 65nm) wouldn't really jive, as the leading edge of the stack would have likely transitioned to the X2K range or similar by then and ATI tend to market products with the prevailing nomenclature, even if the featureset is a generation old, e.g. Radeon 9200, X600, X550, etc.
 
There should be a rv570 512 meg sku, there are always a 512 meg "pro" sku. Does the amount of memory that a card carry get decided at board maker level or does ATI decide that?
 
Regarding the Dailytech slides, what is this "high speed anti-aliasing support"?
**Hopes for 4AA sample per clock rops**
 
Regarding the Dailytech slides, what is this "high speed anti-aliasing support"?
**Hopes for 4AA sample per clock rops**

Dailytech just made their own version of the official ATI slides. The original slides mention "Full Speed SuperAA" which DailyTech wrongly 'translates' to "high speed anti-aliasing support".
 
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