RV560/570 Gemini roadmap

[no-X]

So it´s all geo´s fault, right ?

No, of course. It's my fault. I should read whole B3Df before posting anything

 

[Arty]

Looks like the X1800 GTO² is coming. :smile:

An X1800XL with an XT cooler, any guesses on pricing?

 

[Anon Lamer]

Looks like the X1800 GTO² is coming. :smile:

An X1800XL with an XT cooler, any guesses on pricing?

Seek an older thread in the "gfx boards and drivers" forum.

 

[Arty]

Seek an older thread in the "gfx boards and drivers" forum.

This one?

 

[no-X]

Looks like the X1800 GTO² is coming. :smile:

An X1800XL with an XT cooler, any guesses on pricing?

GTO2 is X1800XT-512 under-clocked to 500/500 (XL). It's already sold out according to our suppliers.

 

[Arty]

GTO2 is X1800XT-512 under-clocked to 500/500 (XL). It's already sold out according to our suppliers.

I wasnt aware of that. At what price?

 

[no-X]

The price was about 20-30% higher than basic X1800GTO. It was available only for 2 weeks (Czech Republic).

 

[Anon Lamer]

This one?

Sigh now you made me go looking for it. Its this one: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31671

 

[CJ]

The GeForce 7900GT is currently as low as about $250, so they don't have far to go in price to compete well with the Radeon X1950 Pro.

The 7900GT isn't going to drop in price... Welcome GeForce 7950GT 512. Same price as the GeForce 7900GT 256.

But ATi will have a little counter against the GF7950GT 512 shortly after the introduction of the X1950XTX.

 

[trumphsiao]

woo, 12X3 ALUs , RV570= 256bit RV560 version

 

[trumphsiao]

RV570 12X3 ALUs 12 TMUs 256bit
RV560 12X3 ALUs 12TMUs 128bit

but BOM cost is too high, sigh...............

 

[Arty]

RV570= 256bit RV560 version

Are you reading off the Nvidia slides or is there another source?

$199 for RV570 is sweet. It should easily fight off 7900GS.

 

[INKster]

Are you reading off the Nvidia slides or is there another source?

$199 for RV570 is sweet. It should easily fight off 7900GS.

I'm not so sure...

12 vs 20 ?

 

[ERK]

36 vs 40?

 

[INKster]

According to PC INpact, the 7950 GT (in this case, a "simulated one, using an overclocked 7900 GT) is up to 21% faster than a regular 7900 GT, and only 9% slower than a full blown X1900 XT.

Is RV570 faster than a X1900 XT, or at least faster than a 7950 GT ?
At $299 ?
I'll choose the best of the two.

 

[Dave Glue]

According to PC INpact, the 7950 GT (in this case, a "simulated one, using an overclocked 7900 GT) is up to 21% faster than a regular 7900 GT, and only 9% slower than a full blown X1900 XT.

How about when running AA with HDR?

Oh...

 

[Arty]

I'm not so sure...

12 vs 20 ?

RV570 should be identical in performance to the X1900GT. In comparison 7900GS will be slower.

According to PC INpact, the 7950 GT (in this case, a "simulated one, using an overclocked 7900 GT) is up to 21% faster than a regular 7900 GT, and only 9% slower than a full blown X1900 XT.

Is RV570 faster than a X1900 XT, or at least faster than a 7950 GT ?
At $299 ?
I'll choose the best of the two.

CJ hinted that the new X1900XT 256MB will be faster than a 7950GT 512MB.

X1900XT 512MB > X1900XT 256MB > 7950GT 512MB > X1950 Pro > 7900GS > RV560 > 7600GT*

*Guess

 

[INKster]

How about when running AA with HDR?

Oh...

I really don't care about that.
No card in this category has the speed for such quality settings (yet) anyway.
As for AA+HDR, i'll stick to "HL2: Ep1".
I prefer high resolution in games to having AA enabled on lower resolution settings, and that for a long time now.

But this is just too confusing, because i haven't seen a direct comparison between RV570 and the 7950 GT and i prefer to avoid the usual unsubstanciated hype.
Considering all the G80 details and iminent release, it might be wise for me to save some more money and buy one in a couple of months...

 

[no-X]

But this is just too confusing, because i haven't seen a direct comparison between RV570 and the 7950 GT...

Why to compare these cards? X1950PRO(RV570) should be cheaper. Shouldn't it be X1950PRO x 7900GS and 7950GT x X1900XT-256?

 

[Acert93]

I really don't care about that.
No card in this category has the speed for such quality settings (yet) anyway.
As for AA+HDR, i'll stick to "HL2: Ep1".
I prefer high resolution in games to having AA enabled on lower resolution settings, and that for a long time now.

A number of recent benchmarks have shown AA + HDR on the X1800/X1900 series is not quite bad in regards to performance penalty.