GhostofWar
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How is the stuttering in Scorn in VR? It almost broke me in standard playing, if it was a longer game I wouldn't have made it through.
Rift, Vive, and Virtual Reality
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No stuttering. The 3080 has it doing 90 fps on the Odyssey+. I settled on having textures on "High" and everything else on "Low". In VR this seemed to be the best choice. Other settings either soften the image and slow it down for no obvious benefit, or just don't render right in VR.
There are still some visual issues though. There is a volumetric fog standing in places that looks a bit off and outdoors there were some shadows rendering on only one eye. I've seen these issues with all of the UEVR conversions I've tried but even Low settings didn't disable them here.
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GhostofWar
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Thanks, I love the aesthetic so going to give this a look when I get a chance with your tips.
Quest Massively Outsold PSVR 2 Over the 2023 Holiday
Judging by sales volume on Amazon, Quest 2 & Quest 3 massively outsold PSVR 2 during the 2023 holiday season. Tracking Quest 2, Quest 3, and PSVR 2 sales volume on Amazon US gives strong evidence that Quest headsets did quite well this holiday season, while PSVR 2 saw concerningly low sales...
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Quest Massively Outsold PSVR 2 Over the 2023 Holiday
Judging by sales volume on Amazon, Quest 2 & Quest 3 massively outsold PSVR 2 during the 2023 holiday season. Tracking Quest 2, Quest 3, and PSVR 2 sales volume on Amazon US gives strong evidence that Quest headsets did quite well this holiday season, while PSVR 2 saw concerningly low sales...
It's hardly surprising tbh given you don't need any other system to feed the Quests. Wireless standalone VR that can provide useful real world experiences (like that keyboard learning app that Q3 keeps advertising itself with) are going to have massively more mainstream appeal than a tethered VR gaming headset that you need an expensive console or PC to drive.
And I imagine the passthrough only adds (probably significantly) to that mainstream appeal.
PSVR2 is undoubtedly flagging all for its own reasons. PS5 is a very popular console, so it's not like sales are just highly bottlenecked because of an inherently small potential market.
That said, this includes Quest 2 sales, all while those have been selling for absolutely dirt cheap during the holidays, and almost assuredly at a loss. No way they're making these headsets and all associated costs for £200 or less. So I'd bet Quest 2 is still the bulk of the 'mainstream' success for Quest. That price point, even the original one, was just so good.
But still, PSVR2 is in trouble, as many predicted it would be. Unlike Quest 2, the PSVR2 price point is painful. It's a great headset, but they pushed PSVR2 to a premium segment in a console market where 'affordable' is the name of the game.
And this sets off the old chicken and egg issue VR always has. You need a respectable size install base before developers will see the opportunity cost of investing in VR projects as worthwhile. And without those games, there's little to attract people to pay the high entry cost. It's become doubly an issue for PSVR2 because PCVR has largely died off in terms of dedicated releases, so there's none of the synergy between PSVR and PCVR that there was last generation. Sure, there's the possibility of Quest ports, but the promise of PSVR2 was supposed to be a high end VR experience, not up-res'd mobile ports.
Sony looks like they're gonna 'Vita' this whole platform, giving it token support while ultimately letting it fade away. Not surprised though given Playstation's emphasis on only betting on potential big money in recent years. I'm almost shocked Jim Ryan didn't bring down the hammer and cancel the whole PSVR2 project before it came out.
TBH I think we will probably have to wait for mobile/standalone VR to catch up with the dedicated platforms of today before we start to see what we currently consider high end VR experiences start to hit the mainstream (this ignores the recent UE4/5 VR mod of course which already offers plenty of high end experiences on PC albeit it a fiddly way). So probably something like a Quest 5. Presumably eye tracking will be part of the solution by then (likely in Quest 4) which will go a long way towards improving the mobile graphical experience.
Form factors will naturally go down as well while passthrough and body tracking will get rapidly better so I expect by the time we see Quest 5 (maybe 6), assuming FB don't decide to stop the product range, then the convergence of those technologies will create a product that is truly "must have".
I mean, in the end, mobile will never be high end, kind of as a rule. Even with foveated rendering, you're still talking a fraction of the same capabilities you'd get with modern(at whatever given time) console/PC hardware.
So I think it's always going to be a big shame if VR remains primarily a mobile experience. I totally get why that might be inevitable, but having been a fan of VR for PC from the start, it's really just never going to quite get the same love as AAA gaming. Being mobile-focused I think is also going to lead to some of the nastier aspects of that market, like low app price expectations which leads to scaled down projects and exploitative monetization practices. I guess part of that is my bias against mobile gaming in general, but it seems to be how a more casualized market will trend.
Rec Room 'Can’t Justify' The Cost Of PSVR 2 Port
Rec Room "can't justify" the costs for a PSVR 2 port, according to its CCO.
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Rec Room 'Can’t Justify' The Cost Of PSVR 2 Port
Rec Room "can't justify" the costs for a PSVR 2 port, according to its CCO.
Not a good sign unfortunately.
GhostofWar
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Maybe Meta will make some AAA tier games if/when their VR streaming stuff actually becomes viable, but that probably wont be viable until streaming normal games is mainstream so probably best to just forgot about it for quite a few more years.
If valves next vr device is mobile like everyone speculates that will also push us towards a mobile focus.
It's not about mobile as much rather you can't do 3/4 of hacks or extreme hacks because it shows up as sore thumb in stereo.
For example metro exodus has orthographic impostors you can't see on ordinary displays which I find ridiculous tbh (how on earth can that be state of art 3D rendering).
The Quest audience is a varied bunch. Most seem fine with the limited graphics capabilities. The VR experience is amazing enough as it is. There are a lot of them that want more though and get SteamVR up and running. Hopefully this can bring in some more PC game development.
UEVR seems pretty exciting to people too and is motivating them to try more PC VR gaming.
UEVR seems pretty exciting to people too and is motivating them to try more PC VR gaming.
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Maybe this will be of interest. Here's what I've accumulated on my wishlist in the past months. I'm pumped for quite a few of them.
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Astro Hunters VR on Steam
Become one of the Hunters in Astro Hunters VR - PvPvE extraction shooter set in space. Explore a unique planet, fight with different enemies, craft, gather resources, and upgrade your weapons. But remember there are also other hunters on the planet. Will you ally, fight, or betray - it's up to you!
Wanderer: The Fragments of Fate on Steam
Step into the unknown and embark on an epic, time travel adventure, completely re-imagined. Introducing Wanderer: The Fragments of Fate, a remake of the critically acclaimed VR adventure game - Wanderer. There’s no telling where you’ll go and who you’ll become as you unravel the mysteries of time.
Gunman Contracts - Stand Alone on Steam
"Gunman Contracts - Stand Alone" is an action-movie inspired shooter playable both in VR and in Non-VR (First Person). As a professional hitman, the player takes on ruthless forces in the criminal underworld, bringing justice and order in the world beyond the reach of law - one contract at a time.
Vampire: The Masquerade - Justice on Steam
Become a vampire. Strike from the darkness and drink the blood of your prey. Use stealth, persuasion, and an arsenal of upgradable abilities to sneak past enemies undetected or punish the guilty in the seedy backstreets of nighttime Venice.
Into the Radius 2 on Steam
Into the Radius 2 is an immersive VR survival shooter, set in a realm of surreal landscapes and deadly entities known as Pechorsk Anomaly. Arm yourself with realistic weapons and venture deeper into the mysteries that lie within, either solo or with a friend by your side.
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MADiSON VR on Steam
MADiSON VR now plunges you even deeper into its immersive and terrifying world. With the utilization of an instant camera in your virtual hands, bridge the gap between our world and the unknown. Snap photos, develop them by yourself to solve puzzles, explore the shadows and above all, survive.
Into The Darkness VR on Steam
Into the Darkness VR takes full advantage of VR tech. Your skills will be tested as you uncover the sinister secrets concealed within a secret base, hiding the consequences of the AI experiments of today. Face the many challenges dismembering robots and using realistic physics to your advantage.
Titan Station on Steam
Far into the future, in the year 1999: David, a systems operator, runs from his troubles by taking a job on a space station. After arriving, his mundane work turns into a struggle for his very life as he makes a shocking discovery.
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cheapchips
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This video is from a piece of Meta research, but I enjoyed the amount of fuckery on display. If MR/spatial computing takes off, pray that no one ever turns this into malwear. 
Metro Awakening on Steam
Metro Awakening is a story-driven first person adventure built for VR that blends atmospheric exploration, stealth and combat in the most immersive Metro experience yet. Don your gas mask, brave the crippling radiation and venture into the depths of the Metro where threats haunt your every step.
It's being made by Vertigo Games. Developers of Arizona Sunshine and sequel, 7th Guest VR, and After the Fall.
Great to see a proper high production value VR game like this on the horizon.
