Reports of PS2 hardware peak are "bullshit" - Reev
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I rather think this generation has peaked, though there's a chance the quality 2004 games will hold things steady for a bit. Certainly after that, though, the emphasis will be more and more on next generation, and though there will still be plenty coming out in 2005 that's new, the premiere developers will be looking beyond--as we all HOPE they'll do.
I mean, I could see them eventually getting to 140 million units--lowering price and redesigning and covering new markets--but that's like the PS1 hitting 100 million just now... Not of much concern to any of us now.
I mean, I could see them eventually getting to 140 million units--lowering price and redesigning and covering new markets--but that's like the PS1 hitting 100 million just now... Not of much concern to any of us now.
Not to any of you, probably.cthellis42 said:
Just as the people over in the 3D Tech forum are always shocked and dismayed by the data from Valve which shows the systems even active on-line game players actually use.
It only goes to show that the participants on these boards are not terribly representative of the marketplace.
You forget how quickly we stop caring about the non cutting edge when there are other shinies to distract us. 
I can see them being at around 50% of hardware sales right now because why...? We've seen it before. The Playstation sold about 50 million units after four years, and is now at over 100 million--half of that increase from the redesigned units. (Though it has also now pretty much given up the ghost on sales.)
So while Reeves has a point, it does not mean they haven't hit a peak in momentum. "Number of hardware units sold" does not show how healthy that market segment is--profit does. How much hardware profit will they be giving up as they go? Will software plug along at the same rate? Will Sony's profit on software sales continue to be as high, since they too will be experiencing price drops?
There is profit momentum, interest momentum, and plenty of other "momentum" to look at other than just from the point of unit sales. Sales will not be increasing like we've seen before, and many year-on-year examinations will show levelling/decline.
How much has Sony made off the past four years of PS2 hardware/software and related peripherals, and how much have they made from the PS1 in that same span? We don't get the numbers, and I don't KNOW the numbers, but that is the overall trend you look at.
jvd is, of course, completely off his rocker.
I can see them being at around 50% of hardware sales right now because why...? We've seen it before. The Playstation sold about 50 million units after four years, and is now at over 100 million--half of that increase from the redesigned units. (Though it has also now pretty much given up the ghost on sales.)
So while Reeves has a point, it does not mean they haven't hit a peak in momentum. "Number of hardware units sold" does not show how healthy that market segment is--profit does. How much hardware profit will they be giving up as they go? Will software plug along at the same rate? Will Sony's profit on software sales continue to be as high, since they too will be experiencing price drops?
There is profit momentum, interest momentum, and plenty of other "momentum" to look at other than just from the point of unit sales. Sales will not be increasing like we've seen before, and many year-on-year examinations will show levelling/decline.
How much has Sony made off the past four years of PS2 hardware/software and related peripherals, and how much have they made from the PS1 in that same span? We don't get the numbers, and I don't KNOW the numbers, but that is the overall trend you look at.
jvd is, of course, completely off his rocker.
^ ^ I'm sure they made LOADS of money out of peripherals... Bloody memcards/remotes/controllers/cables/useless-stands/eyetoy.
jvd said:
Hasn't Sony sold more PS2 in 3 years than they sold PS1 in the same period of time? I'm sure i heard that, that PS2 was/is selling faster than PS1 did in its time. It's gonna slow down surely, and it has slowed down already, but as long as Sony can put out big titles, PS2 will keep flying off the shelf...
london-boy said:
Don't forget the famous Multitap, they sell it at the affordable price of 50€ around here...
Sony knows the ancient art of marketing-fu, no doubt about it.
And about the fact that the PS2 has only reached 50% of its hardware sale is maybe an optimistic prevision, but i won't be surprised if Sony could sell 140M PS2.
Personaly, i expect them to sell something like 110/120M until the end of its lifespan.
Unless they delay PS3 by a lot and they keep pulling out amazing titles to hold people off next gen machines, PS2 will likely not sell 140M units.
Devourer said:jvd said:WIll be kinda hard if it suffers the same shortages that the ps2 did at launch huh
Ah, it's refreshing to see you always (ALWAYS) have to make negative or dubitative comments about Sony and PlayStation. But we like you that way
hey , he is the one mentioning the past. Don't blame me
