PS4 Pro Speculation (PS4K NEO Kaio-Ken-Kutaragi-Kaz Neo-san)

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Sure there are still improvements with HDR but like I said for me personally they are pretty small considering the current price premium and the bright room issue is IMO big for a lot of buyers. Great if you have a dedicated cinema room.



The cheapest 'Ultra HD Premium' TV at the same size as my Panasonic is twice the price (£1200 Samsung KS7000) and out of my budget. I see even less point going for a cheaper pseudo-HDR TV. I could have gone for the equivalent Samsung for around the same price and I decided against a Sony because of their really slow UI (my brothers own Sony's). I wanted a change from Samsung so went with Panasonic with its fast UI and smart features.

Right now for me HDR is too much of a price premium for the added benefit and still very much a work in progress. I'll get one in two or three years, though.

Fair enough.
 
Well there are not many value HDR based TVs. And? It's like not it's a choice of 4K or HDR but not both.

Choose right now a TV with no HDR or HDR with laggy performance then it's not an option. For those with the feature while offering little or tolerable lag then HDR becomes a viable feature that offers better IQ.

The Vizio P series is a hell of a deal IMO. Rtings puts it on par with the Samsung KS8000 and I've seen it for $899 on sale for the 50" model.
 
The Vizio P series is a hell of a deal IMO. Rtings puts it on par with the Samsung KS8000 and I've seen it for $899 on sale for the 50" model.

Unfortunately for those outside of the US, I believe Vizio is only available in North America. Or has that changed?

Regardless, I'm sure there will soon be an explosion of affordable HDR sets in Korea from 2nd tier display manufacturers. Whether they make it outside of Korea is another question entirely.

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Too bad quantum dot LCDs contain cadmium, which is extremely poisonous. This will be an issue when these devices are retired, when people junk their stuff instead of have it properly recycled. Because of this I'm unwilling to buy anything that uses quantum dot tech.
 
Amazon only listed PS4 for Oct13, it cloud just be a new SKU of a reguilar console [larger HDD or a packed-in game].

All this Neo talk is just a speculation.
 
Not too long ago (10 years...), there were not many value LCD based TVs.

Give it some time, it will happen. It's the way consumer electronics work. Hopefully we can also get OLED screens down to $1k territory relatively soon. :p

Kinda off topic, What do you know about sony and samsung skipping all together OLED tech and going to develop another light emitting variant, was it qled or something similar??
 
With the closure of Evolution Studio, is the possibility of an enhanced DriveClub none existent at this stage? All that game needs is some decent AF and AA so it can reach truly prodigious level like those photomode shots. And what would The Order look like with 2.3x of gpu power! As we approach closer to the Neo announcement I can't help but to masturbate on those thoughts:).
 
For me personally HDR isn't something that is worth the cost right now. I bought a 50" Panasonic 4K TV earlier this year for £650 knowing it wasn't HDR. The current cheapest Panasonic with "proper" HDR the DX902 is both too much (~£2100) and too big for my setup (58"). This model of TV also uses a shocking amount of power in HDR mode (364W vs 99W). The biggest issue is that apparently to get the benefit of HDR you have to view movies in the dark: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-vs-201604104279.htm
It seems that the main problem of HDR is:

1, HDR can be affected severely by small amount of ambient light.

2, HDR TV requires max backlight and contrast (and much more power)

However, in general home environment there is always ambient light, and many people are not used to watch TV at max backlight.

I am curious how much advantage does HDR still have for common use (eg. backlight 5~7 with some ambient light)?
 
I'd be more concerned about the power draw.

I thought there were two specs for hdr - one for oled, which basically pushed black level lower, and one for led tvs that pushed the brightest levels higher. Basically the same contrast, but from different starting points.

If they can't make it suitable for an average room with a 60W equivalent light-bulb, they're going to have a difficult time with it. I'm kind of curious if there's not a way around it through calibration.

Not sure why hdr would have more display lag. It would have to be caused by some kind of image processing.
 
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