The original link backs up his second claim, I have no clue about 360 sales but I don't tend to doubt him. :|
It says quarter one 2007.
The original link backs up his second claim, I have no clue about 360 sales but I don't tend to doubt him. :|
Do you have any links to back these ridiculous statements?
Well, NPD only, this does not take into account worldwide sales, December 360 was 1.1 million.
PS3 to date NPD is about 1.45 million. So it's somewhat close but clearly ahead.
WW PS3 sales are probably like 2.5-3.0 million. I cant see 360 matching that in December either. Allowing for 600,000 EU sales puts total 360 in Dec at maybe 1.7 million. Maybe 1.9 if you add the rest of the world.
As for three times inventory statement, again pretty sure false. I''m not sure but Sony probably has 3 million inventory or something, which again if they've sold 3 or even 2.5 m doesn't get you close to a 3x.
I dont see how Sony can just cut prices generally any faster than MS..so if it gets to that kind of firesale I think they can be matched blow for blow. Hell, it is 360 we forget (amidst all this expensive repair fiasco, which should be getting straightened out) that should have the massive cost advantage, having already shipped ~12 million, and having what should be cheaper components all around. And dont forget PS3 has that built in hard drive to contend with, where MS has the core unit.
There's a lot more cost fat on the PS3 to trim than there is on the 360, and Sony has a wealth of experience in refactoring hardware engineering to reduce costs.
According to ars, the PS3 sold 710,000 while MS claims to have shipped 700,000 in the same quarter.How does this compare with the 360 anyone?
Are you serious?? The 360 sold more in one month (Dec 2006) then the PS3 in its entire lifetime.
Sony is sitting on 3 times as much inventory as it has sold.
They have a big hill to climb regardless of anything else.
Selling at a loss isn't a big deal if you've lots of other revenue streams. Download content should be a good earner. BRD movies won't be too shabby in returns. Where PS2 only had games to make a profit back on, and it made Sony lots of money, PS3 adds more opportunities. So pricing more aggressively is something Sony are in at least as a good a position as MS. Especially as MS seem very conservative in that respect so far.True, but I don't think this will ever be able to add up to the PS3 being as cheap to manufacture as the 360, which was the point. The 360 will perpetually be profitable or at least break-even at price points that would force Sony (if they matched them) to sell at a loss.
The hope is, if you're Sony, that you can get people to perceive that they are getting sufficient added value for the extra money.
True, but I don't think this will ever be able to add up to the PS3 being as cheap to manufacture as the 360, which was the point. The 360 will perpetually be profitable or at least break-even at price points that would force Sony (if they matched them) to sell at a loss.
It says quarter one 2007.
Selling at a loss isn't a big deal if you've lots of other revenue streams. Download content should be a good earner. BRD movies won't be too shabby in returns. Where PS2 only had games to make a profit back on, and it made Sony lots of money, PS3 adds more opportunities. So pricing more aggressively is something Sony are in at least as a good a position as MS. Especially as MS seem very conservative in that respect so far.
True, Sony has used more and more expensive components compared to MS, but Sony is producing a number of the major and most costly components themselves besides having more experience re-engineering/design their consoles. By doing so they have more control of the end-to-end process and cutting out as many middle man as possible.
True, but I don't think this will ever be able to add up to the PS3 being as cheap to manufacture as the 360, which was the point.
The market share of MGS 4 isn't big as you think.MGS4 will barely push 3 million units itself, nevermind 3 million PS3es.
I was talking about pricing...I don't see this at all. MS has been at the forefront of generating alternative revenue streams all along. How can you possibly call them conservative?
Problem of analyzing the PS3 is that you've got to address its impact in the HD format war. PS3 is key for Sony, much more so than just as a game console.
Personally, I see many possible outcomes, and in the most probable of them, Sony wins big (as in blu-ray royalties for years to come).
It's actually sad it is priced so high, cause it's a fantastic machine.
I was talking about pricing...
So pricing more aggressively is something Sony are in at least as a good a position as MS. Especially as MS seem very conservative in that respect so far
Does anyone think MS have been pricing XB360 aggressively? Whatever opportunities MS have developed for alternative revenue streams, they're not using them to price their hardware at mainstream prices.