After looking a bit more, I think you may be right.
PlayStation Move technology thread
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After looking a bit more, I think you may be right.
Yes, this is a controller calibration since Wiimote+ does not have the magnetic sensor to correct the drift. The Move motion controller does not need it.
Rotmm said:
The depth and position can be detected accurately by the controller without recalibration.
In Sports Champions, the calibration is an application-level decision to facilitate interpretation of your high level movements. e.g., It needs to know your arm's length, shoulder height, and also where your center/position is to animate the character properly, and to detect gestures accurately. It does not mean you have to stick to the same spot to play.
I remember in one of the interviews (not sure if it's Sports Champions), the developers mentioned that since we can change player between rounds, the game does not want to make assumption about who's playing.
Thanks for that Shifty. I got rid of the Wii long before M+, after only a couple of months in fact. However, didn't remember constant calibration occuring in games, and if this is the 'advancement' that Kinect and Move are bringing to the party (pun intended) then it's very much a disappointing one.
The advancements Kinect and Move bring are many. I don't think there is one game that demonstrate all their improvements yet. So it's impossible to judge using one title, or one flaw alone.
Indeed, that's why it works. The sphere size is known. The camera FOV is known. Thus measurement of distance is absolute so doesn't need calibration.
Are they really mini-games though? I'm not getting that strongly an impression that they are, considering the depth. I see myself play Table Tennis for hours ... which brings me to:
Really? Table Tennis very finnicky? Not by most accounts, but perhaps it was too difficult? 8 feet recommended for most games? Just some, others work fine from even 1,5 feet.
Also, journalists are doing a really crappy job finding out about the games out there, AND Sony is doing a really crappy job of helping them out by providing a good list. I'm also starting to feel that they should have pushed the embargo to even later, because clearly a week hasn't been enough for many of these gamers.
Sony's marketing is dropping the ball again. I"ll be interested to see though if I can play Table Tennis myself in my small livingroom without having to tilt the TV sideways.
I played with it in Fry's 2-3 times. Each time about 15 minutes. Wii Sports Resort advised me to take a break, and lay down the controller horizontally a few times. BUT you don't have to follow.
So depends on the accuracy the game demands, the controller drift may or may not be ok.
Watch this nice little test:
Apparently you can recalibrate very easily, something which I hadn't seen anyone do yet. The calibration then not only adjusts the Move color if necessary, but also the camera's sensitivity. The latter seems much more important.
Apparently you can recalibrate very easily, something which I hadn't seen anyone do yet. The calibration then not only adjusts the Move color if necessary, but also the camera's sensitivity. The latter seems much more important.
Replace "Move" with "DS3" and you'd see why. The games have to be good first. Aligning behind Move universally is like aligning behind DS3 universally (Does it make sense ?). There are good and bad games on any controller. The reviewers may also be more open to their favorite genra (I will always remember Eurogamer gave the rubber duckie game a 2/10).
This is why people mentioned that software and marketing are key. Wii Sports was THE software that drove Wii sales because it's one of a kind, and fun -- although I'm not sure if reviewers liked it universally.
PS Move, Kinect, Vitality Sensor will need to find their own flagship applications.
Need to wait for MS to complete it first.
I like those iWaggle vids. They have a lot of charm for technical reviews. Move seems pretty robust in real use, with calibration adapting well to light conditions.
They're really excellent. They have charm, but they're also just waaay better than anything I've been able to find from just about anywhere else. Just by having made the effort to do the picture in picture bit and the nice greenscreen for Flight Control HD, which he says he'll be using for anything that doesn't require full body view in the future. Or by learning to play the game at a reasonable level before starting the recording.
I found another interesting comment the other day - forgot for a while where I saw it, but now I have it again:
Q: I have a video projector, so it’s a very low-light environment. The Leds at full power would impact the contrast and wash out the image.
Is the led color completely to the discretion of the game designer, or will there be an option in the XMB to force it to a certain color, or at least set the intensity ?
A: Anton Mikhailov | August 28th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
So far the control is up to the game (and some games will forward that control to you) but we can look into adding it to the XMB in the future (maybe a max intensity setting or similar).
There shouldn't really be any call for the user adjusting LED brightness, and PS3 should automatically be adjusting sphere intensity to the minimum that'll do the job, to save batteries if nothing else. Dropping below this will cause errors, and changing brightness above this will waste power and cause more light pollution like screen reflections beyond the necessary side-effects of getting a clear view of the sphere.
That was a funny video, I laughed out loud a couple of times and confused my co workers.
Are they officially sanctioned? Surely they must be using Sony supplied innards to get the same readings from the MEMS components, or else it'd have different characteristics.
