I would argue that Mario Kart has evolved a fair amount from entry to entry, with the inclusion of motion controls, flight, underwater sections, and new minigames/battle modes. At least as much as Gran Turismo has evolved. Which is why I compared them to begin with. And, yeah, I did focus on the numbers because it's important to take into account the pace of releases in this context. One of the criticisms I received is that you can't compare GT to MK because they are different types of racing games, but really I wasn't. I was comparing the number of releases, taking into account gameplay changes per release, and the pace of releases. Not the actual games themselves.I can't help feel you're still blindly focussed on numbers of entires in a franchise. I am not.
The reason I used Mario Kart as an example is because it's evolved very little in 30+ years. Unlike Super Mario as a platformer, which has. Plenty of franchises rack up number entires - the number of outings in the Halo overshadows Mario Kart but the FPS games evolved with new mechanics and the franchise included RTS entires as well. Gears of War has had five third-person cover-shooter outings and one turn-based strategy outing. Most franchises are constantly iterating and evolving.
Mario Kart has not. The fact Nintendo don't do this with every franchise does not detract that Mario Kart is a cheap remaster money-grab.
Some new ip in ps4 era: Days Gone, Horizon, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, Driveclub, Bloodborne, Astrobot, Until Dawn, The Order, Detroit, Judgment. Briliant list to be honest, what will brings this generation we will see but many want sequels of at least some of title in this list and is good that some we will get.
I wouldn't consider Spier-man a new ip considering it's a licensed game from an existing ip. Death Stranding isn't a Sony IP is it? I thought Kojima had the rights to it. Driveclub also. Doesn't Evolution or Codemasters own that? I think Sony owns Until Dawn, and it's cool. Sort of fits into that "They kept making games in the series" mold though, with 3 releases on PS4 I think. Detroit is owned by Quantic I'm fairly sure. I'm pretty sure Quantic owns the ip for all their games, which is why they (and not Sony) published them on PC. Judegment is neither a new ip (It's part of Yakuza), nor owned or published by Sony (it's Sega), nor exclusive anymore (it's on Xbox Series and Stadia).
Oh, snap. Forgot about that. There really are 10 Mario Karts (if you count 8 twice). Although, I would imagine an AR game with real world karts probably is enough innovation to exclude it from the criticism of being too samey to the rest of the series, right?
Judgment is not part of Yakuza even tough its location is Kamurocho is separate title with no story connection. Evolution was bought by Codemasters but was ealier Sony studio and think Driveclub is still Sony ip (but don't know what would change if they sell also Driveclub ip ?) Yes Detroit and Death Str. are not sony ip but were playstation exes thats why I put it on list (also because I like these games).
So we can disagree about Judgment's inclusion in the Yakuza series but still agree that it isn't a Sony IP, or even an exclusive. I would argue that there are universe connections based on shared lore, locations, and factions, but I can see the argument that it's separate enough. But still, not a Sony game, just a timed exclusive from a 3rd party.
yes, still this generation we got many new brilliant ips from first and 3rd party studios and some people says that only sequels of old ips are in development as it wasn't at least true for ps4 generation
The Last Guardian, Knack, Resogun, not a new IP but they totally reinvented God of War on PS4 and of course brought VR to the great unwashed and the many new IPs that brought with it! And least we forget other things like the attempt to bring us a touch pad and that complete failure of a button called share!
Other notable references: Legend of the Dragoon, Omega Boost (I d LOVE a proper next gen sequel), Arc the Lad, Xtreme, Twisted Metal, Jumping Flash, Motor Toon, Colony Wars, G-Police, Vib Ribbon, Medievil, Syphon Filter, The Getaway, Primal, Siren, Ghosthunter, Mark of Kri.....there are so many games that came from Sony's owned studios, that were abandoned
I want to check that out. Does anyone remember the name?
