I don't understand why Sony's waggle thing require a PSEye, does it not have any of the motion detection stuff built in?
For accurate 3d positioning with respect to camera.
Otherwise they can only detect tilt and acceleration.
I don't understand why Sony's waggle thing require a PSEye, does it not have any of the motion detection stuff built in?
That's far different than than if someone released a touched up and enhanced video and presented it as actual gameplay that one would experience once the game was launched. BTW - not claiming anyone has done said thing.
Regards,
SB
For accurate 3d positioning with respect to camera.
Otherwise they can only detect tilt and acceleration.
Absolutely. However, for the MS solution to incorporate a controller is simple. In fact, grab a "Big Button Controller" and you're done. You can also use any simple object as a controller. Want a sword? Use a sword. Want a gun? Use a gun. Put an infrared LED on the front of the gun that turns on when you pull the trigger, and you have a fully functional controller.It's actually more convincing. I hope they combine the "Fish" tank demo here. You might want to cool down and think carefully. There are advantages for no controller, and there are advantages with a controller.
Sources for this? No release date was mentioned by MS as far as I know, no price was mentioned, and developers were receiving their motion control Dev kits starting yesterday.Nothing about Natal struck me as a viable technology for gaming at this point. It'll be expensive, it's going to show up extremely late, and I'm not convinced that the technology is going to be ready for developers to really put it to good use around launch.
I have not seen this "severe lag" you're talking about. Sources?Oh, and it does not appear to have the severe lag of Natal. Natal may be useful for simple, hands free interaction with the system, but PSMC actually has far more demonstrated potential for fun games.
Wii does it with the bar on the TV?
No it's not. Not at all.
You're still being "sold" a product through these "proof of concepts". The fact that the hyperbole was so grand (especially in reference to the ridiculous Milo BS) only further illustrates that it's the same thing.
Again, gamers are getting their hopes up, but in the end, Natal will be about menu navigation and waggle w/out a controller, the other BS will probably see such limited application this generation, you might as well temper your expectations.
Another is that the wiimote does the calculating with the wii
The 360 needs a proprietory CPU to do the calculating
Whilst the PS3 has the SPU and this is percisely (routine calculations) one of the SPU's strengths.
only wiimotes look at the sensor bars and the PSeye looks at the colored bars AND uses ultrasound to detect distance. Very clever and complete solution if you ask me.
This basically solves the biggest problems of motion sensing: Absolute positioning, and an absolute vector in regard to which direction you are pointing. (shown in the demo perfectly)
Combine that with precision, and you have something that can actually be playable not by detecting gestures but simply throwing vectors as an input into the game engine.
Another is that the wiimote does the calculating with the wii
The 360 needs a proprietory CPU to do the calculating
Whilst the PS3 has the SPU and this is percisely (routine calculations) one of the SPU's strengths.
Absolutely. However, for the MS solution to incorporate a controller is simple. In fact, grab a "Big Button Controller" and you're done. You can also use any simple object as a controller. Want a sword? Use a sword. Want a gun? Use a gun. Put an infrared LED on the front of the gun that turns on when you pull the trigger, and you have a fully functional controller.
For Sony to do the opposite, to track full body movements in 3D is essentially impossible with their current design.
Which still doesn't negate the fact that Natal has far more potential than either Nintendo's or PS3's currently announced plans.
Everything that MS announced with regards to Natal is certainly possible. As grandious as they may be, it's all still quite possible.
As with everything it'll depend on what dev's make of it. Considering there's been far more shown of the capabilities of the Natal versus the PS3 wands, I'll put the Natal as ahead in the potential department for now.
I'm supposing the PS3 wands were also using what basically amounts to a tech demo. So were they also "lying" with regards to that? As it may or may not ever show up in a game in that form?
Which still doesn't negate the fact that Natal has far more potential than either Nintendo's or PS3's currently announced plans.
Everything that MS announced with regards to Natal is certainly possible. As grandious as they may be, it's all still quite possible.
As with everything it'll depend on what dev's make of it. Considering there's been far more shown of the capabilities of the Natal versus the PS3 wands, I'll put the Natal as ahead in the potential department for now.
I'm supposing the PS3 wands were also using what basically amounts to a tech demo. So were they also "lying" with regards to that? As it may or may not ever show up in a game in that form?
Regards,
SB
Absolutely. However, for the MS solution to incorporate a controller is simple. In fact, grab a "Big Button Controller" and you're done. You can also use any simple object as a controller. Want a sword? Use a sword. Want a gun? Use a gun. Put an infrared LED on the front of the gun that turns on when you pull the trigger, and you have a fully functional controller.
For Sony to do the opposite, to track full body movements in 3D is essentially impossible with their current design.
Sources for this? No release date was mentioned by MS as far as I know, no price was mentioned, and developers were receiving their motion control Dev kits starting yesterday.
I have not seen this "severe lag" you're talking about. Sources?
Absolutely. However, for the MS solution to incorporate a controller is simple. In fact, grab a "Big Button Controller" and you're done. You can also use any simple object as a controller. Want a sword? Use a sword. Want a gun? Use a gun. Put an infrared LED on the front of the gun that turns on when you pull the trigger, and you have a fully functional controller.