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I find it funny how everyone is getting their panties in the bunch, when Sony officially never even said Cell will be some kind of central processor in PS3.
Maybe I'm slow with catchig up on the information, but Cell never looked like something that could even be used as a CPU and/or GPU. It always appeared to be some kind of communication processor.
Maybe I'm slow with catchig up on the information, but Cell never looked like something that could even be used as a CPU and/or GPU. It always appeared to be some kind of communication processor.
To me Cell looks like where computing should have started to go a long time ago -- the computer industry got lost for a while. 
Of course, I blame this on those incharge, MS and Intel -- moreso on the former.
Cell as we know it now basically addresses significant computation power merged with IO that can back it up. This is useful in many areas, that requires significant data movement and computation. Communication isn't the only thing that would require this.
Of course, I blame this on those incharge, MS and Intel -- moreso on the former.Cell as we know it now basically addresses significant computation power merged with IO that can back it up. This is useful in many areas, that requires significant data movement and computation. Communication isn't the only thing that would require this.
marconelly! said:
A few people can't seem to understand that nothing is offical and making up things in thier head or reading between the lines doesn't make them anymore offical then they were before. Welp i dunno. All i'm saying is that not everything is finallized and nothing is official. Sony set it up so that people would come to conclusions based on things that weren't said and things that were. This way hype would spread around the net that sony was goign to be using a 1tflop chip in thier system and nothing can beat it. Its been posted on a crazy amount of message boards and thousands of news sites. This is free pr for sony.
Paul said:
Its common knowledge that sony wants to use a version of cell in the ps3. What version no one knows. I never said cell chip wont be used in the ps3 (that was a quote from the article u sent me to ) I'm just saying it may not be the 1tflop chip and sony has never confirmed it was the 1tflop cell . So untill they do its stupid to say the ps3 will be 1 tflop . Sony did say they wanted it to be a 1000 times more powerfull but that doesn't mean they will reach that goal. It also doesn't say what part would be a 1000 times more powerfull. Its just marketing speak. Nvidia promised to deliver the fastest gpu out. They did that. Not in performance but in mhz. So u see we can't go by marketing speak.
Paul said:
I never said it be weaker. I never said the xbox 2 or gamecube 2 will be more powerfull. I just said that the ps3 might not be 1tflop. It seems people think that I want the ps3 to fail when i never said anything like that. Lots of people just want to put words into my mouth.
I too want to know what definite proof there is that CELL won't be used in the PS3 CPU. Could someone email the author. Like someone who would actually be listened to and not ignored, like one of the maintainers of this website? The email address of the guy that wrote the article is gjames@designchain.com. Dave B.?
bbot, I want to know the same. Because as far as we know now, all the author did was take a previous time of Kutagari saying it wouldn't be in ps3 and used it for his article. Which doesn't hold up, because Sony execs say time and time again that a version of cell will be in ps3. Like the guy at GDC 2002.
Here you go Chap you didn't happen to read this from the patent did you?
[0068] FIG. 4 illustrates the structure of an APU. APU 402 includes local memory 406, registers 410, four floating point units 412 and four integer units 414. Again, however, depending upon the processing power required, a greater or lesser number of floating points units 512 and integer units 414 can be employed. In a preferred embodiment, local memory 406 contains 128 kilobytes of storage, and the capacity of registers 410 is 128.times.128 bits. Floating point units 412 preferably operate at a speed of 32 billion floating point operations per second (32 GFLOPS), and integer units 414 preferably operate at a speed of 32 billion operations per second (32 GOPS).
Oh and not to mention, figure 6 had 4 pixel engines. Now what would that be doing in a strictly broadband chip?
[0068] FIG. 4 illustrates the structure of an APU. APU 402 includes local memory 406, registers 410, four floating point units 412 and four integer units 414. Again, however, depending upon the processing power required, a greater or lesser number of floating points units 512 and integer units 414 can be employed. In a preferred embodiment, local memory 406 contains 128 kilobytes of storage, and the capacity of registers 410 is 128.times.128 bits. Floating point units 412 preferably operate at a speed of 32 billion floating point operations per second (32 GFLOPS), and integer units 414 preferably operate at a speed of 32 billion operations per second (32 GOPS).
Oh and not to mention, figure 6 had 4 pixel engines. Now what would that be doing in a strictly broadband chip?
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