Nvidia went SLI because they can't compete?
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It wasn't that as there is going to be a certain amount of opposing opinions no matter how it is phrased, it's just that the way the title belittles nVidia I felt it was an open invitation for some fanboys to attack. 
Yup, but more of a "nVidia really sucks compared to ATi?" was how I was reading it....and I read that as nothing but trouble.geo said:
I think SLI will be here to stay. I frankly like the idea of teaming up 2 cards and getting a huge boost. And let us not forget that this is only the first iteration of SLI and I am sure that the NVidia drivers department know that there is still plenty of room for improvement when it comes to SLI. What NVidia pulled off in terms of the 6800 series is quiet amazing IMHO after the FX crapola. But ATI was able to play catch up right away and even beat the 6800 using the old archtiecture. While that is amazing and that should give more cred to ATI that does not mean that ATI should sit back and relax. I want SM 3.0 support. Period. I want to play Far Cry and Splinter Cell 3 the way it was meant to be played by the game developers using all the tricks and bells and whistles and HDR and so on so forth. I think SLI is an awesome idea and had I not blown 3 grand on my laptop not too long ago, I would have bought an SLI system. I think people spending money to upgrade is their preference and frankly I would upgrade every year meself. I am going to buy a 3.4 EE for my laptop for example in the next month or 2 since the Prescott is sickeningly hot. I think the R520 will be quiet a nice leap in terms of performance especially if the number of pipelines are going up. That is my opinion but facts are always better than opinions so I am going to wait and see before I buy the top of the line R520 card.
The 5900nu I modded into a 5950u was overheating since it ran hotter after the flashing, so my modding was to pull off it's silly cooler and put some nice copper BGA's on the ramsinks and an old all copper AMD cooler on the GPU with an 80mm fan on top of the whole thing.
It takes up THREE slots now...
suryad said:
What's the deal with the 70 series beta. Anybody had a chance to test?
I must say I'm not particularly impressed with this first iteration of SLI performance wise but I still like the idea. Hopefully things will get better as competition comes on board (ATI's AMR or whatever). At least we'll get rid of all these people telling others how to spend their money because their favorite toy isn't as cool as the kid next door's.
trinibwoy said:
So we're up to roughly 14 profiles per month (Nov-March) provided by NV? That still seems disturbingly slow to me for a high-profile project. What, they have one guy working 2 hrs/day on them? The big news is the editor to make your own --somebody needs to put that sucker thru its paces and see if it really works, whether any nasties show up, or if (and how often) performance increases just don't happen even with a profile.
Oh, btw, anyone know if you can easily export/import profiles with their new editor thingie? That could add a JATO to availability of profiles. . .major game sites offering ones done by their members for download. . .
Sonic said:
LOL, where do you get this stuff? I don't like SLi, that should be blatantly obvious by now. The reason I don't like it is not because I'm a fanATIc, it's because of the many reasons I listed; it costs alot more, performance is sub par for a dual card solution and the cost imo, it creates alot more heat, requires more power, does not work with all games, etc. Is that so hard to understand?
Yeah I don't like when people blow money considering half the people in the world are in poverty and starving, call me a hippy or whatever you like, that's a simple fact. The epitomy of human ignorance. It's not my problem right? I don't know those people so it doesn't effect me. Anyways I'm getting off topic.
If someone gave you an nvidia card then, well, congradulations, however that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about those who actually go out and spend the money, not those who get stuff for free. Yes I still think SLi is a waste compared to available single slot solutions, but hey people are free to do whatever they want, that's free choice. Free choice also gives me the right to explain my position on the matter.
Trinibwoy said:
You just said you yourself aren't impressed with SLi, then you go on to stereotype everyone else that happens to not like it as merely being fanboys or jealous?
ANova said:Sonic said:
LOL, where do you get this stuff? I don't like SLi, that should be blatantly obvious by now. The reason I don't like it is not because I'm a fanATIc, it's because of the many reasons I listed; it costs alot more, performance is sub par for a dual card solution and the cost imo, it creates alot more heat, requires more power, does not work with all games, etc. Is that so hard to understand?
Yeah I don't like when people blow money considering half the people in the world are in poverty and starving, call me a hippy or whatever you like, that's a simple fact. The epitomy of human ignorance. It's not my problem right? I don't know those people so it doesn't effect me. Anyways I'm getting off topic.
If someone gave you an nvidia card then, well, congradulations, however that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about those who actually go out and spend the money, not those who get stuff for free. Yes I still think SLi is a waste compared to available single slot solutions, but hey people are free to do whatever they want, that's free choice. Free choice also gives me the right to explain my position on the matter.
Trinibwoy said:
You just said you yourself aren't impressed with SLi, then you go on to stereotype everyone else that happens to not like it as merely being fanboys or jealous?
I am sure there are alot of posters with SLI rigs who are very charitable in their own right. I don't think it is fair to generalize otherwise. Your opinion on the videocard topic is appreciated.
ANova said:You just said you yourself aren't impressed with SLi, then you go on to stereotype everyone else that happens to not like it as merely being fanboys or jealous?
No, I said I wasn't particulary impressed with the state of Nvidia's current implementation - not SLI in general. Notwithstanding the fact that with ATI joining the fray dual-gpu configurations should stick around for a while and get better driver and game support going forward. Just as games of the future will be built with multiple cpu configurations in mind as dual-core chips become mainstream.
I personally have no problem with you or anyone else having an opinion on something. It's just weird for you to be going on about how other people spend their own money. Do all of life's luxuries infuriate you as much? There are far many things in this world with worse cost/benefit ratios than SLI.
trinibwoy said:
You specifically stated "because their favorite toy isn't as cool as the kid next door's." To me this sounds exactly like your stating I or anyone else who doesn't like SLi does so simply because they're jealous. At this point I wouldn't buy SLi even if I was the richest man in the world, that's my choice. Yes, if all the problems I mentioned were improved upon or fixed then my opinion might change. Forget about the money issue, the topic has to do with ATI's single solution X850 versus nvidia's dual 6800U SLi solution and what their advantages and disadvantages are, money is definitely among those disadvantages or advantages.
To play the devil's advocate, SLi is the name nvidia gave their implementation, so technically you are unimpressed with SLi.
geo said:
Sure you can joke about it, but that doesn't make it any less factual. Just saying. :|
ANova said:
Neither issue is a joke. But there are times and places. Taken to the logical conclusion, not just SLI, not just computer gaming, but the whole entertainment industry (defined broadly) end up in the sh*tcan. There's certainly a case to be made, but not here (at least not if you want any support for it.
)ANova said:
You misrepresented the quote, it was not directed at those who do not 'like' SLI. Bolded for emphasis.
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ANova said:
You're absolutely right. But the premium is not worth the same to everybody as it does to you. Instead of using economics to rail against SLI you should applaud Nvidia for opening up a new market and revenue stream by appealing to the less thrifty among us. It has absolutely zero impact on the more level-headed and cost conscious individuals such as yourself
So why the bitching?ANova said:To play the devil's advocate, SLi is the name nvidia gave their implementation, so technically you are unimpressed with SLi.
You love this misquoting thing huh. I said the current state of their implementation, which is a volatile thing - game support and performance "should" improve over time.
I'll spend a LITTLE bit of money on an SLI solution when the time comes for me to do so. It isn't a whole lot of money.
As for those in poverty, I do not pity them but I do care for them. It is not always their fault they are in poverty and I'm a firm believer of donating money so others are able to have a better life.
You don't have to be so biased Anova. Do you really think any of the single card solutions are worth the money? The X850XT sure isn't when considering performance and value. But hey, we're all enthusiasts so that's why we spend so much money on our gaming rigs. It is a hobby for most of us, just like cars for me. So the value to us is probably very different than the value to you.
As for those in poverty, I do not pity them but I do care for them. It is not always their fault they are in poverty and I'm a firm believer of donating money so others are able to have a better life.
You don't have to be so biased Anova. Do you really think any of the single card solutions are worth the money? The X850XT sure isn't when considering performance and value. But hey, we're all enthusiasts so that's why we spend so much money on our gaming rigs. It is a hobby for most of us, just like cars for me. So the value to us is probably very different than the value to you.
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