nVidia Project Th-.. Shield (Tegra4)

Whenever I am reminded of the original xbox controllers I think of that penny arcade strip where gabe and tycho sit in a sofa, each with an xbox controller roughly the size of a beanbag in their laps. :LOL:
 
ToTTenTranz said:
Oh come on, we should stop that.
We all know Silent_Buddha got hugely surprised today, there's no need to emphasize it anymore. :LOL:


I'm probably going to skip this first generation of Shield, since a lack of OpenCL/OpenGL ES 3.0 support may render it useless for mobile games rather early and I'm already planning on being an early adopter of PS4 or Durango.
Wishlist for Shield 2 is same form-factor, larger screen since that bezel is kinda huge for today's standards (it looks like 5.5" would be perfectly doable) and 1080p.
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Yes indeed, hugely surprised. :) Now to read the rest of the thread and catch up.

Regards,
SB
 
Grall said:
Tegra 4 is one beautiful SoC from what I've seen, but why does the casing of that thing have to be so fucken ugly? It's the worst-looking piece of crap of a gaming device I've seen since well before the original, phat version of Nintendo DS. That one at least had a few redeeming features in that it vaguely resembled the dual-screen Game&Watch units from my childhood, but the shield is just god-awful all around. And it looks friggin huge too; thick as well, since it's a clamshell device...
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My son is playing Mario on the original ds as I write this. If shield is as durable and rugged as the original ds I don't care at all. Portable gaming devices should be build to last. I am on my second psp :-\
 
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So last week I think you saw – I mentioned it already, the announcement of the HP SlateBook, I also mentioned a SHIELD device this is Tegra 4, this is now being preordered and an availability of this device is in August.
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That is the full sentence. It is awkwardly stated, but I believe he was talking about the Slatebook here.

So look for that, I mentioned SHIELD pre-orders started this week and they’re on the store shelves in June.

So production we’re ramping for production, and in June they show up on the shelf
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-tkf- said:
My son is playing Mario on the original ds as I write this. If shield is as durable and rugged as the original ds I don't care at all. Portable gaming devices should be build to last. I am on my second psp :-\
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I'm on my second PSP, first Vita, and third ASUS Transformer (this one being an Infinity and the previous two were TF300T's). Mobile gaming has been an expensive pastime so far!
 
ninelven said:
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That is the full sentence. It is awkwardly stated, but I believe he was talking about the Slatebook here.
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Yes, I agree. It is fairly common to find mistakes with punctuation and word meaning/spelling when translating spoken words into a written transcript. I believe that Rob Csongor probably said something like: "So last week I think you saw, I mentioned it already, the announcement of the HP SlateBook--I also mentioned a SHIELD device, this is Tegra 4, this is now being preordered--and an availability of this [SlateBook] device is in August".

So I do believe that Fudzilla got their story wrong about SHIELD shipments pushed further back to August. Just to provide further evidence of this, Newegg.com and nvidia.com still list end of June as the shipment date for SHIELD pre-orders, and HP.com still lists August as the shipment date for Slatebook x2.
 
Hands on with Final nVidia Shield Hardware

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7060/hands-on-with-the-final-nvidia-shield-hardware

To say that Shield has come a long way is to put it lightly. The early hardware was very prototype-y, with a D-Pad that was mushy, triggers that didn’t feel right, analog sticks that weren’t tuned yet, and buttons that didn’t feel communicative enough. Even at Google I/O, NVIDIA was showing off Shield with hardware that wasn’t quite final yet, with a mushy D-Pad and analog sticks that still didn’t feel quite right to me.


The final Shield is much, much better.
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It still looks god-fucking awful though and I wouldn't touch one if Jen-Hsun paid me real money to do it.
 
Grall said:
It still looks god-fucking awful though
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First language, do you talk to your mother that way?

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So you believe the X-Box 360 controller is g-f awful.

What’s really different to me about Shield versus holding any of the other controllers (PS3, Xbox 360 Wired or Wireless) is how I can rest the whole console in basically both palms. The topology of the underside essentially rests on a shelf formed by your fingers. It’s hard to describe, but I’m reminded of my favorite Xbox 360 controller by Scuff gaming with the underside buttons which make you put your hands that way.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7060/hands-on-with-the-final-nvidia-shield-hardware
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Grall said:
and I wouldn't touch one if Jen-Hsun paid me real money to do it.
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Since you won't ever touch one there is no need for you to continuing posting here in this thread. What would be the point.
 
A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y said:
First language, do you talk to your mother that way?

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So you believe the X-Box 360 controller is g-f awful.



Since you won't ever touch one there is no need for you to continuing posting here in this thread. What would be the point.
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Even the controller portion doesn't look much like a 360 controller, but I'd expect he might want different aesthetics for the mobile device with a screen.
 
Shield is what it is, an Android device in the form of a game controller with a flip up screen. Considering all the hardware inside the Shield controller, I'm not sure it could have been made too much smaller without resorting to undersized analog sticks/controls/batteries/heatsink/etc. The aesthetics appear to be quite clean, especially when the screen is closed. I will find out in a few weeks when my order ships...

On a side note, there was some neat augmented reality shown off at E3 2013 using Shield t-shirts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6vgYk0QXmc

And FWIW, I really don't consider Shield to be a game console, but rather a handheld device geared towards gaming that is an alternative to Android tablets/smartphones. That said, within two or three years, due to improvements in Shield (and other Android) hardware and due to growth in Android gaming, devices such as Shield may become a viable alternative to upcoming game consoles.
 
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Yep, I was pretty clear on the "$298.99 MSRP or less" part ;) I must have expected a $299 price as having some reasonable chance. Still, this is pretty shocking to me.
 
What a pleasant surprise!

The cost of ownership should be ridiculously low on Shield. On top of a fairly low base cost, the cost of games for this platform is probably close to $5 on average. So a $50 price drop is akin to providing about 10 extra Android games for free. Hopefully Android gaming will flourish as Android hardware continues to dramatically improve year after year.
 
Well damn..
Is one-cent-away-from-incredibly-lucky the same as unlucky?
I'm not sure...


I think nVidia was mostly pressed by the PS4's price announcement. Truth be told, at $350 we would be $50 away from a brand-new, next-gen console.

Nonetheless, since nVidia isn't getting anything from Android games, they must still be making a profit on each unit sold.

The BoM armchair calculations I did in this thread must have gone down a bit in the meantime. I'd say the 5" 720p screens are probably going way down in price because of all those mid-range phablets from Huawei, ZTE and lots of other chinese manufacturers.

My guess is the BoM is probably sub-$200, with manufacturing + transport + distribution going for another $50. There's also the custom backplate for everyone that might be a bit expensive, like $5 each?


IMO it's still a very interesting gadget, exceptionally made for ergonomics above all.
Too bad the Android gaming market is still a mess regarding proper controller support (EA and Square Enix still refuse to support them).


Can anyone find an official list of supported PC games for streaming at launch?
 
It looks significantly better than it used too, it is more "squarish".
Quite a neat device, too expensive though and I think it suffers from being an advertisement for Tegra4.
I don't think that as far as Android games are concerned that you need more than 2 CPU cores (+the shadow one), Clock could be tad lower too. On the GPU side with the screen resolution being 720p it could be a bit too much too.
Then there is the RAM, Ok the device runs Android but for what should be the average usage of the device, 1GB should have done. They could have saved on flash storage too as they offer a SD card slot, 8GB is plenty (the device has no camera, Android games are still light, what do you need 16GB for?).
They could also have saved on ports, imo hdmi out is useless (the device is supposed to work the other way around, either you consume media/web locally or receive stream from a PC). I think the speaker set-up is overdone too.
With 2 cores, lower clock speed, less ALU on the GPU side, may be they could have passed on active cooling => the thing is "big" and that would have saved them some extra money (lesser battery, no fan).

Anyway too expensive for me to even consider, though if I were more wealthy with Nvidia/steam powered PC, I would see the thing as a blessing.
 
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