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What about all your other guarantees that never came to pass?
And you actually really believe this.
nVidia Project Th-.. Shield (Tegra4)
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What about all your other guarantees that never came to pass?
A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y
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Like?
And you actually really believe this.
Sorry my bad, how could I have forgotten about that incredibly high profile and lucrative ZTE design win?
They'll be going some to recoup $10 million on this. That's 200K units at $50 profit. Good luck to them, they're gonna need it.
Personally I think it will sell well. Gaming on a tablet sucks and even the Vita format largely sucks. There are tons of people with Android tablets for gaming who have large libraries of games and disposable income and this will be a great add-on toy, especially for long trips. I could see myself killing quite a few hours in transoceanic flights with one of these.
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Only if your phone is rooted or falls under a rather small list of supported devices.
Moga or Moga Pro are the only real alternatives, IMO.
Nonetheless, playing high-end 3D games on a mid/high-end SoC will drain a 2500mAh battery in little more than an hour, whereas Shield should be good for 3/4x as much, without the risk of leaving someone unreachable from their cellphones.
I don't know any high-end SoC (much less mid-end) in a phone that's capable of consistently pushing system power consumption to 9W. The form factor doesn't really handle it. It'll throttle.
Unfortunately gaming power consumption/battery life tests are still uncommon for phones so it's hard to tell what the number really is :/
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I actually meant the whole phone. Not the SoC alone but SoC + LPDDR2/3 + 4.7/5" screen + storage + loudspeakers + WiFi + GSM "awareness" + capacitive panel + accelerometer/gyroscope + etc.
Real Racing 3 brings my HTC One to its knees (lower than 14% battery) after about 1h20m
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The phone gets hot pretty fast when a demanding game is launched because the aluminum backplate seems to be used as heatsink, but it doesn't get very hot. I'd say about 40º Celsius in a ~23º C room..
I have no doubt the dual speakers with dedicated amplifiers each are also getting a big chunk of power.
With Beats turned while using the internal stereo speakers, the system seems to be overpowering the lower frequencies within the speakers' limits, making them sound really deep.
I don't know what speakers are those but they get really good results on the lower ranges without distortion, better than many laptops I've heard.
In fact, when playing Real Racing 3 with Beats on, my hands can feel the phone rumbling with the sound of the engines. It's a really neat side-effect.
I have no doubt the dual speakers with dedicated amplifiers each are also getting a big chunk of power.
With Beats turned while using the internal stereo speakers, the system seems to be overpowering the lower frequencies within the speakers' limits, making them sound really deep.
I don't know what speakers are those but they get really good results on the lower ranges without distortion, better than many laptops I've heard.
In fact, when playing Real Racing 3 with Beats on, my hands can feel the phone rumbling with the sound of the engines. It's a really neat side-effect.
the chips have a simple heat spreader over a whole bunch of them in all the phones.
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Yes, and the One has that heatspreader connected to the aluminum backplate through a copper tape, so the backplate serves as a secondary heatspreader:
Unlike most designs, the battery stands between the motherboard and the screen.
I wouldn't be surprised if the results showing the One surpassing the S600 GS4 in some benchmarks despite using lower binned SoCs with lower clocks, older Adreno drivers and slower RAM exist only because the One hardly ever throttles down due to overheating.
It also means the One should be a very stable device for overclocking, at least to GS4 speeds.
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Yes, and the One has that heatspreader connected to the aluminum backplate through a copper tape, so the backplate serves as a secondary heatspreader:
Unlike most designs, the battery stands between the motherboard and the screen.
I wouldn't be surprised if the results showing the One surpassing the S600 GS4 in some benchmarks despite using lower binned SoCs with lower clocks, older Adreno drivers and slower RAM exist only because the One hardly ever throttles down due to overheating.
It also means the One should be a very stable device for overclocking, at least to GS4 speeds.
The HTC one is a beautifully made and we'll designed bit of kit, that heat spreader back plate design is very innovative imo.
Software wise it does seem to be more peppy and responsive than the touch whizz laden gs4, I wonder what performance it will shoot out with the new drivers?
Can you really not see how OT that is?
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So sorry.. It all started with battery draining on smartphones and how it was an advantage for Shield, etc.
Back on topic, it seems the Shield is already getting some product placement love in Modern Familiy:
http://kotaku.com/modern-family-is-already-enjoying-nvidias-shield-507283641
Tegra 4 is one beautiful SoC from what I've seen, but why does the casing of that thing have to be so fucken ugly? It's the worst-looking piece of crap of a gaming device I've seen since well before the original, phat version of Nintendo DS. That one at least had a few redeeming features in that it vaguely resembled the dual-screen Game&Watch units from my childhood, but the shield is just god-awful all around. And it looks friggin huge too; thick as well, since it's a clamshell device...
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I think it looks pretty nice and functional.
If it's function is to make everything else look good then it's a definite design win!!
Then clearly, you are delusional (or, possibly blind...
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