How do you know they are not ports from PS2 + Wii remote support?
You may be trying to put sequels in the same basket as remakes and spin offs but no matter how you put it Resident Evil 4 for Wii, or Okami, or FF Crystal Cronicles are not in the same league as the new Resident Evil 5, FF13 or a new IP project on a next gen hardware. They arent that innovative either.
If Sony planned for a late 2005 or early 2006 launch from the beginning, devs would have had much more time with much better tools. I don't buy any BS about delays with the PS3, especially when you look at the launch supply. Regardless of what they say, it was planned for late 2006 from software to hardware.
True, but Zassk isn't suggesting Wii would sell 700K/mo with PS3 launching a year earlier at a much lower price. Regardless of how much of a homerun the Wii is, going up against an already established PS3 which costs only $50 more would be a far more daunting task.
Remakes may or may no be innovative, depending whether I have already played them or not.
Seriously though, very little is truly innovative, as it is much easier and safer to just copy what just works.Well, agree to disagree. I do see a revolutionary concept with the wii mote and whether devs use it properly, that's devs problem. I game since 1980s and have never played anything remotely similar to Wii sports (yes as simple as it may be).
We disagree again, as much as MSG4 evolved from MSG3, it's going to be a mere evolution. In fact, animations will be as crappy as before (from the videos I've seen).
I like PC gaming better than Console gaming (by far). I like RPGs and RTS which are best on the PC. However, since I spend most of my time seating in front of an LCD screen at work, writing software, I try to avoid the *mouse* at all costs. So the next best thing is the Wii mode.
I don't see your point of bringing 360/PS3/PC here. Apparently thatdude90210 thinks third parties are leaving money on the table in the current situation, so he's not satisfied with what are currently available and wants hardcore games (see, GH4 and Rock Band are not hardcore) better than the RE4 port created for Wii as the new dominant platform (something like Red Steel?). My comment is about why large third-parties are not very interested in doing something beyond nominal hardcore games that are ports with Wii-remote support.
Yep. How many more >700k to 188k beatings will the PS360 have to take before the "Wii is a fad and/or novelty" label wears away. What's worst about that beating was that it was administered during the launch of perhaps the biggest game this generation the PS360 will see.
Remakes may or may no be innovative, depending whether I have already played them or not.
Well, agree to disagree. I do see a revolutionary concept with the wii mote and whether devs use it properly, that's devs problem. I game since 1980s and have never played anything remotely similar to Wii sports (yes as simple as it may be).
We disagree again, as much as MSG4 evolved from MSG3, it's going to be a mere evolution. In fact, animations will be as crappy as before (from the videos I've seen).
Aside from Eye Toy, the only truly innovative game I played on the PS3 was Motorstorm. It is also the first game about racing I ever bought in my life. And a lot of it was because of sixaxis use.
I like PC gaming better than Console gaming (by far). I like RPGs and RTS which are best on the PC. However, since I spend most of my time seating in front of an LCD screen at work, writing software, I try to avoid the *mouse* at all costs. So the next best thing is the Wii mode.
Sustainability will come (or not) from the developers. But again, I never played anything like Wii sport before. As simplistic as the game may be, it is different that everything else, thus innovative.
I don't take it as a given, I take it as a tool that is unnavailable on the other consoles. I agree that many games on the Wii would play just as well on the other HD consoles (such as SMG). However, SMG is not hindered by the Wii mote in any way.
There is always risk in innovation. They did innovate, and whether Devs fully utilize Wii mote capability is probably something out of nintendo's control. Personally, my feeling from talking to people is that the Wii mote is MUCH more important to Wii's success than people here on these forums would have you believe.
1) Laa-Yosh said "But it should be just as obvious that the innovation also ends with the wiimote, with the way the player can interact with the game." Wii Sports is different, but there's not much innovation beyond that.
His point was that outside of a few examples, what is radically different in Wii's gameplay? You have the waggle party games which, once you've got one, they're all much of a kin; you have shooters which are an improvement when you can point to aim, but gameplay wise the same run.shoot.cover mechanic of every other shooter; you have a couple of point+click games in Elebits and Boom Blox that wouldn't map onto a conventional controller; and the rest is traditional gameplay tagged onto a different controller. How is the gameplay in Mario Galaxies or Mario Kart different from what was being attained on the other controllers?
