Nintendo announce: Nintendo NX

[Prophecy2k]

There is still a huge opportunity for Nintendo going after kids, nostalgic adults, adults who played Nintendo as kids and will purchase a Nintendo console to play with their own kids, and hardcore gamers who will buy NX as a different flavor of ice cream/2nd console. Amiibo has proven Nintendo can take a toy and make it a marketing success in this new age of gaming/social media. NX won't be 'cool' in the sense PS/Xbox try to draw 13 year-olds to CoD/Halo, it will be the cool occasional alternative to indulge in Nintendo's unique world within its ecosystem. Wii U was an unattractive concept, this time with NX you will see how gaming/social media will power its adoption amongst hardcore gamers irresistibly driven by temptation, habituation, gaming peer influence and boredom to the latest NX exclusive.

The WiiU failed for many more reasons than it simply being an unattractive concept (Nintendo themselves being the principal and primary reason). Otherwise how would you describe the Gamecube's failure or N64?

Unless the NX has some crazy killer feature and launches with a crazy killer app (essentially Nintendo catching lightening in a bottle a second time), I'm not seeing this. Ninty needs to change to have a successful home console again. They also need 3rd party support.

Nintendo's measly 1-3 games-a-year drip feed of title releases simply isn't sufficient to prop up an entire console platform. They need games to fill out a library. The WiiU needed games to fill out its library. The NX will need games to fill out its library...

 

[east of eastside]

The WiiU failed for many more reasons than it simply being an unattractive concept (Nintendo themselves being the principal and primary reason). Otherwise how would you describe the Gamecube's failure or N64?

Unless the NX has some crazy killer feature and launches with a crazy killer app (essentially Nintendo catching lightening in a bottle a second time), I'm not seeing this. Ninty needs to change to have a successful home console again. They also need 3rd party support.

Nintendo's measly 1-3 games-a-year drip feed of title releases simply isn't sufficient to prop up an entire console platform. They need games to fill out a library. The WiiU needed games to fill out its library. The NX will need games to fill out its library...

Mainstream third-party support will exist on NX, and to more of a degree than on Wii U, but it will be only a secondary supporting draw in terms of software on the system. Nintendo's goal is to be like iOS/Android (see Iwata comments) with software shared within the joint console/portable ecosystem to fill in the droughts between major Nintendo 1st-party releases.

In terms of success, I'm not talking about Nintendo having the number one selling system, but Nintendo having big potential to maximize the monetization of its niche far beyond Wii U.

 

[BRiT]

I'm predicting the next Nintendo home console wont even have as much Third Party support as the WiiU has.

 

[wco81]

Unless they offer some capability that the other two can't for at least a couple of years.

If they make a PS4/X1 clone some 2-3 years after those others launch, the publishers will be looking to the next generation already.

 

[shredenvain]

I'm predicting the next Nintendo home console wont even have as much Third Party support as the WiiU has.

What about a situation like we had with the Wii were a lot of 3rd party titles were made specifically for the Wii. I am sure that will only happen if the system is quite successful like the Wii was. I think it is much too early to try and make any predictions about 3rd party support. I can see where the current trend would make it seem that 3rd party support will be low for their future system, but if they truly combine their mobile and console platforms they could see a lot of support.

 

[Prophecy2k]

Mainstream third-party support will exist on NX, and to more of a degree than on Wii U, but it will be only a secondary supporting draw in terms of software on the system. Nintendo's goal is to be like iOS/Android (see Iwata comments) with software shared within the joint console/portable ecosystem to fill in the droughts between major Nintendo 1st-party releases.

How? By magic?

Nintendo themselves have actively and consistently turned their noses up to mainstream 3rd party publishers. The WiiU, Nintendo's last platform, tanked so hard that even if 3rd parties cared about Nintendo, they wouldn't even be able to justify the dev cost of throwaway ports of games they were already developing for other platforms.

For Nintendo to secure real tangible mainstream (so inc. the biggest western) publisher support, they need to do something drastically different. A wing and a prayer won't change anything.

What was that quote from that Far Cry 3 character again? About the definintion of insanity?

 

[Rikimaru]

Nintendo's goal is to be like iOS/Android (see Iwata comments)U.

Their goal is more like Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU. Almost identical but slight differences in content so they could be sold as separate titles.

 

[east of eastside]

No. ROMs will be always more expensive than discs at similar capacity. And at 25-50GB significantly more.
Also most big 3DS cartridges are NAND flash.

Still calling cartridges in some form for NX console whether that be a NXDS cartridge slot, or cartridges as the primary medium (although right now that seems like more of a leap w/o knowing more about ROM tech available for '16/17). The physicality and collectability of the medium fits with Amiibo and the whole collectable aspect has always been a stronger Nintendo theme. Nintendo hates optical drive and it wouldn't surprise me to see them abandon it with NX.

The NX cartridge will be an important aspect of the NX concept as a shared, multi-device storage medium.

 

[AlNom]

Can we get back to the thread topic.

 

[Cyan]

Still calling cartridges in some form for NX console whether that be a NXDS cartridge slot, or cartridges as the primary medium (although right now that seems like more of a leap w/o knowing more about ROM tech available for '16/17). The physicality and collectability of the medium fits with Amiibo and the whole collectable aspect has always been a stronger Nintendo theme. Nintendo hates optical drive and it wouldn't surprise me to see them abandon it with NX.

The NX cartridge will be an important aspect of the NX concept as a shared, multi-device storage medium.

I usually dream of a future console -not necessarily the NX- which features very small cartridges, like those from the Gameboy Advance, something that could lead to lots of saved space within the innards of the console and would bring back the charm of the physical era, which now is leading to entirely digital. As long as physical games could be easily stored and used a very small amount of space, you could build a huge library of physical games without worrying about overcluttering your shelves.

 

[orangpelupa]

they have new game reviewed by eurogamer thats basically the same between on Wii U and on 3DS. It seems using nintendo web framework.

 

[Rikimaru]

It seems using nintendo web framework.

nintendo web framework seems too high level for 3DS.

 

[east of eastside]

I usually dream of a future console -not necessarily the NX- which features very small cartridges, like those from the Gameboy Advance, something that could lead to lots of saved space within the innards of the console and would bring back the charm of the physical era, which now is leading to entirely digital. As long as physical games could be easily stored and used a very small amount of space, you could build a huge library of physical games without worrying about overcluttering your shelves.

Never owned one, but I loved the PC-Engine/HuCard concept, everything being designed so beautifully slim and compact. This would be the perfect NX concept for me, a tiny console equipped with a shared NX/NXDS cartridge slot at a retail price that a hardcore gamer would be tempted to pick one up as a second, companion console for their PS4/X1.

Don't know much about Flash/EEPROM/Mask ROM tech to have a sense whether a cartridge based console would be viable in '16/17...anyone have an opinion or insight on that?

Apparently Intel and Toshiba are recently touting some 3D Flash tech storage advances...

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Don't know much about Flash/EEPROM/Mask ROM tech to have a sense whether a cartridge based console would be viable in '16/17...anyone have an opinion or insight on that?

Apparently Intel and Toshiba are recently touting some 3D Flash tech storage advances...

Alternative distribution to discs

 

[Globalisateur]

What would you prefer: Nintendo Tablet or Nintendo Phone?

 

[BRiT]

What would you prefer: Nintendo Tablet or Nintendo Phone?

Nintendo specific Tablet. I wouldn't trust Nintendo with a software stack enough to have them develop a phone.

 

[wco81]

After the failure of the Wii U tablet controller, why would they make a tablet?

Anyways the sales growth of tablets have stalled.

 

[BRiT]

After the failure of the Wii U tablet controller, why would they make a tablet?

Anyways the sales growth of tablets have stalled.

Because the only hardware they sell that is 'successful' is closer to a tablet than a console, the 3DS.

 

[McHuj]

What would you prefer: Nintendo Tablet or Nintendo Phone?

Tablet.

A nintendo phone would be as successful as the Nokia NGage. Who would leave Android or IOS for a Nintendo ecosystem. With a phone, it's not just games but all the other apps needed for daily use. Do you trust Nintendo with that?

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

Because the only hardware they sell that is 'successful' is closer to a tablet than a console, the 3DS.

Apart from being portable the 3DS is a lot closer to a console than it is to a tablet imo.