Nintendo announce: Nintendo NX

[Pixel]

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...on-the-origins-of-nintendos-famous-characters

Miyamoto NPR:



NX is..
1)Low power consuming
2)Small media (cartridge/digital)
3)Small system/form factor (for a Japanese child's playroom)
4)Unique (mobile/console/portable convergence system)
5)Affordabe ($299 base mode launch price)

NX console: 2017
NX handheld: 2016

Possible 3rd party abandonment.

 

[AlNom]

They don't have to do anything to facilitate that.

Literally.

 

[BRiT]

Nintendo NX is just a redesign of amiiboo figurines.

That's the only way I can see them selling that many in a year.

 

[AlNom]

Maybe you can buy 27 to form some sort of box.

 

[BRiT]

Maybe you can buy 27 to form some sort of box.

GameCube^Cube^Cube

 

[Deleted member 13524]

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...on-the-origins-of-nintendos-famous-characters

Miyamoto NPR:

That's quite the misleading quote.
The interview is from June and he's clearly talking about the Wii U. Here's the full quote + question:

One of the things about Nintendo that's always been interesting is you've never tried to make a more powerful console with better graphics, and all the stuff that the Xbox has done. Can you explain a little why you've kind of stuck with that?

So unfortunately with our latest system, the Wii U, the price point was one that ended up getting a little higher than we wanted. But what we are always striving to do is to find a way to take novel technology that we can take and offer it to people at a price that everybody can afford. And in addition to that, rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use.

And the reason for that is that, No. 1, we like to do things that are unique and different from other companies, but we also don't want to just end up in a race to have the highest-tech specs in a competition to try to find how we get these expensive tech specs to the lowest price of the other systems. And so there's different ways that we can approach it, and sometimes we look at it just from the sense of offering a system that consumes less power and makes less noise and generates less heat, or sometimes we may look at the size of the media and the size of the system and where it fits within the home.

But really what's most important to us is, how do we create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it.

 

[Gerry]

You could do a square shape with 9 cubes. 9 would make an odd cube, tho. (See what I did there? Heh.)

If you had 16 gamecubes and a fourth physical dimension you could make a game-tesseract... (Would probably need a lot of ducktape though...)

You know I posted my comment whilst entirely sober and it's still probably the stupidest thing I've ever written on a message board.

God knows where 9 game from.

 

[London Geezer]

I know how you feel

 

[tangey]

For Wii U GPU it's 160 shaders x 2 x 550MHz = 176 Gflops.

For Xbox 360 GPU it's 240 shaders x 2 x 500MHz = 240 Gflops.

Nintendo would need about 10.5 times the Wii U GPU's performance to reach PS4's 1,843 Gflops (1.84 Tflops).

(PS4 GPU: 1152 shaders x 2 x 800MHz )

I don't think Nintendo will target anywhere near the PS4's performance because I think the NX is a tablet.
Something like this:

Apple's implementation in the ipro tablet is a non-standard Powervr configuration that uses 12 clusters to get around 720Gflops (16bit).
IMG have announced, but as yet no announced licensee for , a 16 cluster variant the GT7900. Ramp that up to 700Mhz and you get approaching 1.5Tflops (16bit), which they do quote as being acheiveable with the GT7900.

IMG have been making increasing noise about the suitability of this variant in particular for affordable "game consoles". Now most likely that's just marketing and putting their products out there.....but...I'm just saying....

http://blog.imgtec.com/powervr/powervr-gt7900-redefining-performance-efficiency

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Apple's implementation in the ipro tablet is a non-standard Powervr configuration that uses 12 clusters to get around 720Gflops (16bit).
IMG have announced, but as yet no announced licensee for , a 16 cluster variant the GT7900. Ramp that up to 700Mhz and you get approaching 1.5Tflops (16bit), which they do quote as being acheiveable with the GT7900.

IMG have been making increasing noise about the suitability of this variant in particular for affordable "game consoles". Now most likely that's just marketing and putting their products out there.....but...I'm just saying....

http://blog.imgtec.com/powervr/powervr-gt7900-redefining-performance-efficiency

I have no doubts that IMG's "affordable game console SoC" would be great for a smaller handheld, but given the announcements given in late 2014 and past history between companies, I'm 95% sure the NX will be handled by AMD.

Plus, Nintendo has been saying over and over how they're planning to unify their architectures. To do so with MIPS - an architecture that game developers haven't used for many years (last one was PSP?) - would be quite a big risk.
Those are just my thought, though. If Nintendo continues to be obsessed with the "affordable" part, then I'd rather have them release a console with an all-IMG SoC using the GT7900 than say a Carrizo-L with a 2 CU GCN GPU doing 200 GFLOP/s (that would be downright embarrassing).

 

[McHuj]

Interview with Nintendo President from Time

“As far as NX goes, I’ve said it’s different and obviously a new experience,” he tells me. “If you look back to the beginning of our conversation today, we talked about the transition from Wii hardware to the Wii U hardware and how difficult it is to explain to the consumer base what is different and new about the new hardware. It’s difficult to convince them to switch from their current platform to the next platform.”

“That being said, I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”

http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/?xid=homepage

 

[BRiT]

Yup, that interview confirms Nintendo NX is the next revision of Amiboo figurines.

 

[AlNom]

They should launch with DOAX3 amiibos.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Interview with Nintendo President from Time

The scary part:

It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”

So Nintendo's target audience is their existing customer base. No intention to grow that base? (Maybe whole article is more positive?) They've pegged themselves as a niche.

 

[MrFox]

Fuck.

I have nothing more to say. I'm going to vent my anger trying to destroy my N64 with bare hands.

 

[Rodéric]

The scary part:So Nintendo's target audience is their existing customer base. No intention to grow that base? (Maybe whole article is more positive?) They've pegged themselves as a niche.

Might be talking about Wii user base, that's quite a comfortable market already

 

[Rodéric]

Fuck.

I have nothing more to say. I'm going to vent my anger trying to destroy my N64 with bare hands.

YOU SHALL NOT !
N64 is a great console

 

[London Geezer]

And the DS/3DS audience. There's a few of those.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

So Nintendo's target audience is their existing customer base. No intention to grow that base? (Maybe whole article is more positive?) They've pegged themselves as a niche.

I know I'm sounding as repetitive as an 80 year-old man, but for me moving away from those platforms means moving away from home consoles.
Which means the NX is a handheld that caters not only to the Wii U niche but to the 3DS crowd too, which is probably close to 70 million right now.



Sony decided to self-destruct the Vita as soon as the console launched. Google and Apple failed miserably at implementing gamepad-driven games so far.
Nintendo has the whole handheld gaming market just for them, except for the F2P and 50-cent casuals.

 

[Grall]

N64 is a great console

It's also a hellishly well-built console. You'd break your hands trying to wreck it with your fists...