My instinct says this too, though who knows. Much depends on how they will perceive the Wii U.
Next Xbox for debut at E3 2012?
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My instinct says this too, though who knows. Much depends on how they will perceive the Wii U.
I don't know how it works where you are. Here, getting a contract (that enables you to get the phone) requires proof of income.
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+1 there's completely no need to announce in a year advance about a new system. Still can't fathom why Nintendo did that. Some companies don't even pre-announce their new products at all. People nowadays expect a new product to be available pretty soon after it's announced.
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This will be their strategy to have a leg up on their competition while leveraging MS's products.
You heard it here first.
I don4t believe that you will have dual boot but MS could enable some windows functionnality if you pay for a live gold++ account. Something like accessing a unified desktop on all you MS devices backed up on the cloud as well as having access to a significant remote storage and some cloud based office applications and a browser. I can t see MS making a dent in their windows/office revenue. On the other end offering a pretty much complete HTPC is possible the xbox, windows8 media center, highest live subscription may be the "same".
Nah...cloud based computing and thin clients has never caught on and I don't see it changing anytime soon. People want to own the software they don't want to rent on a monthly basis. Renting works for movies but it hasn't worked for OS and PC software. If renting software was viable you'd see many companies do it already.
I think most would just rather buy Windows XB downloaded from marketplace or bought from retail and install onto Xbox 720 HDD. Many people already have a PC but most don't have it hooked up to their TV so Xbox720 with PC functionality is much more attractive as a 2nd PC. Also many existing and future Xbox owners don't want to pay for Live Gold so they stick with Silver which is free. People already have existing Windows software which they own so it's more attractive to install that onto Xbox. Besides MS doesn't make all the software in the world so how would I run something like Photoshop using MS's cloud based rental scheme? I doubt they'll create an online software rental store like Netflix to use Xbox as thin clients.
I think most would just rather buy Windows XB downloaded from marketplace or bought from retail and install onto Xbox 720 HDD. Many people already have a PC but most don't have it hooked up to their TV so Xbox720 with PC functionality is much more attractive as a 2nd PC. Also many existing and future Xbox owners don't want to pay for Live Gold so they stick with Silver which is free. People already have existing Windows software which they own so it's more attractive to install that onto Xbox. Besides MS doesn't make all the software in the world so how would I run something like Photoshop using MS's cloud based rental scheme? I doubt they'll create an online software rental store like Netflix to use Xbox as thin clients.
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That would be quite cool and I would not mind it, especially if the go for 4-8 GB of RAM. But for this to happen they would have to sell the console with a profit or at least at cost. They whole principle of selling the console at a loss and making it up with games and stuff would not work if you would have, maybe even majority of, byers getting it for the PC capabilities only...
Well if you want to use Xbox as a PC only you'd still have to buy the Windows OS.:smile:
But it doesn't really make much sense to buy Xbox for PC use only because you could get a much faster PC with bigger HDD, more memory for the same price...so the majority of sales will likely be for game use first and PC uses second.
It doesn't make much sense to have the box as a full PC. The functions you'd want for your living room are things like browsing and simple apps, and not full productivity software. Something like windows 8 but limited to specific apps and not allowing full PC function would add value to the system without inviting buyers of lossy hardware for its PC capabilities.
Also this is the next-gen hardware thread.
Also this is the next-gen hardware thread.
I'd bet on windows phone ported to tablets/xb similarly to android and meego. Quite definitely it won't be full-blown Windows on there.
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In that case the tablet/stripped down version of windows 8 would make a lot more sense than trying to bodge wp7 into doing something it wasn't designed to do.
On modern processors with virtualization there is no reason to dual boot, switching personalities will be more like hibernation/resume ... and if it has a fast SSD probably pretty fast too. In dashboard mode you'd probably simply keep the Windows personality active since there is plenty of memory available, so you could switch instantly.
That said, Windows is a neglected piece of shit with lots of feature omissions they didn't think important to their business customers (how can a modern OS not have a capability security model? Adobe programmers are monkeys flinging shit at walls, but it's Microsoft which has allowed their shit to leave such a mess). They'd have to fucking finally start paying some attention to home consumers again in their OS division before exposing it to the XBOX crowd.
You're right most PC users used it for web or some occasionally "basic office" work so a cloud service is the right thing to offer, and interactions with others devices, but no limit with M$ devices, need to catch many users and it's easy to have a iOs or Androîd app to link with M$ Cloud service. You can have also some photo and video basic editing via Kinect, can be an app on the xbox (like in Blade Runner!
). But yes in this case the level of sells of PC can decrease quickly… Not good for M$… but wait PC sells already decline! So M$ need to change their horse! Here we go!
BR movies is something you'd want to do sat back in your armchair on the big screen. The main need for a full PC is for more work-related tasks, often being sat closer to the screen where you get a fuller view - not everyone can afford or fit a 60+" screen to occupy the same field of view at a 6 foot viewing distance.
Sitting upright at a desk is also a better position for many. For many tasks a full PC just isn't needed, and can be provided as apps. Chuck in an HTML5 browser and everyone can use the lifestyle functions they'd want (Facebook, YouTube, email, browsing, etc.) without needing full Windows BC to run legacy PC software that isn't a good fit for the living room.Whether you'd use it for full blown apps or not is up to you, this has no baring on whether or not Windows X should be installed on Xbox. Don't need full blown apps then don't install them.
Better to have the option than not especially if it doesn't cost much to add. It's a tangible bonus that the competition does not have and cannot get.
This will be attractive for students who could use their Xbox as a PC for schoolwork. Students don't have big TVs so it would work great as a PC replacement.
Don't forget that you could also take advantage of the Xbox's hardware and play PC games too.
As for cloud computing that's just a buzzword that has proven to be a flop in realworld usage.
Better to have the option than not especially if it doesn't cost much to add. It's a tangible bonus that the competition does not have and cannot get.
This will be attractive for students who could use their Xbox as a PC for schoolwork. Students don't have big TVs so it would work great as a PC replacement.
Don't forget that you could also take advantage of the Xbox's hardware and play PC games too.
As for cloud computing that's just a buzzword that has proven to be a flop in realworld usage.
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