News & Rumors: Xbox One (codename Durango)

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The best thing about the Xbox was its ability to be hacked and then modded with cool launchers and the great XBMC. It being hacked may also be one of the worst things about it considering it meant piracy was super duper easy for anyone with a broadband connection at the time. I loved mine to death and still use it to play emulators on an old Sony Trinitron TV in my office.

MS did pretty much every thing right with the 360, at least in North America. They launched a year early while being able to massively downplay the hype of PS3. It was a full on generational leap with just about everything being done better than on the original Xbox. They were able to secure exclusive games early on which helped sales tremendously. I agree the RROD was a major blunder early in the console's life but MS was able to turn that around after some time. Kinect being released in 2010 was awesome to do as it helped increase sales despite whether Kinect itself can be deemed a success on 360. MS was able to sell enough units in its first year that it had a solid share of the market from which to build from. And the focus was primarily on games which is a great thing.

And then we have the Xbox One. They dropped the ball on the presentation of the machine for sure. The DRM policies that made many of us question getting the console didn't help them. They've had a lot of negative press since the XB1 unveil, much of it their own making. Things have gotten better for them but not a lot. Titanfall is getting good press but I just don't see the media taking to MS like they have in the past. I'm in agreement with others that the presentation and focus on XB1 as the center for entertainment wasn't the best idea. The focus should have been 90% on games since the very beginning to let 360 owners know MS is releasing a machine that they'd love to upgrade to because of the gaming experiences it will provide and not on controlling your TV with voice commands. The media features are great and all and I like them and use them on the system it doesn't help me with games I want to play. And I am a big believer in Kinect and think MS will be able to prove the value of it with compelling games. I am eager in seeing a game that makes me want to actively play using Kinect.

The hardware in the machine itself is a good design for a system and without Kinect would have been perfect at $300. I do think edram would have been far preferable to esram but can understand the direction MS had to take due to manufacturing difficulties. I'm confident devs will take advantages of the esram in the future, even if it's a year or two from now. I love how powerful SHAPE is and the potential for better sound in games. I hope devs take as much advantage of it as they're able to.

MS is in an OK spot right now. I'm not too worried about recent departures of high level personnel. It could be good or bad or largely neutral. Time will tell.
 
Actually now I think about it the xbox1 wasn't the first PC with console table on it. Iirc there was one from Japan that also was just A PC with a console lable splashed on it.
The hardware in the xb360 though was original ild give you that

There was an Amstrad PC that had a megadrive built in. You had to slide a cover across to use the console and back again to use the PC.
 
The best thing about the Xbox was its ability to be hacked and then modded with cool launchers and the great XBMC. It being hacked may also be one of the worst things about it considering it meant piracy was super duper easy for anyone with a broadband connection at the time. I loved mine to death and still use it to play emulators on an old Sony Trinitron TV in my office.

MS did pretty much every thing right with the 360, at least in North America. They launched a year early while being able to massively downplay the hype of PS3. It was a full on generational leap with just about everything being done better than on the original Xbox. They were able to secure exclusive games early on which helped sales tremendously. I agree the RROD was a major blunder early in the console's life but MS was able to turn that around after some time. Kinect being released in 2010 was awesome to do as it helped increase sales despite whether Kinect itself can be deemed a success on 360. MS was able to sell enough units in its first year that it had a solid share of the market from which to build from. And the focus was primarily on games which is a great thing.

And then we have the Xbox One. They dropped the ball on the presentation of the machine for sure. The DRM policies that made many of us question getting the console didn't help them. They've had a lot of negative press since the XB1 unveil, much of it their own making. Things have gotten better for them but not a lot. Titanfall is getting good press but I just don't see the media taking to MS like they have in the past. I'm in agreement with others that the presentation and focus on XB1 as the center for entertainment wasn't the best idea. The focus should have been 90% on games since the very beginning to let 360 owners know MS is releasing a machine that they'd love to upgrade to because of the gaming experiences it will provide and not on controlling your TV with voice commands. The media features are great and all and I like them and use them on the system it doesn't help me with games I want to play. And I am a big believer in Kinect and think MS will be able to prove the value of it with compelling games. I am eager in seeing a game that makes me want to actively play using Kinect.

The hardware in the machine itself is a good design for a system and without Kinect would have been perfect at $300. I do think edram would have been far preferable to esram but can understand the direction MS had to take due to manufacturing difficulties. I'm confident devs will take advantages of the esram in the future, even if it's a year or two from now. I love how powerful SHAPE is and the potential for better sound in games. I hope devs take as much advantage of it as they're able to.

MS is in an OK spot right now. I'm not too worried about recent departures of high level personnel. It could be good or bad or largely neutral. Time will tell.
Very interesting points.... The future of the Xbox might be the PC, imho. (Nisaaru's post describes it quite well)

My mother usually says that "there is no honey without the sting". And Xbox is a long-term project.

A fellow former told me a very interesting theory on the future of Xbox. He told me that historically, the Xbox brand is a brick that has cost Microsoft a whopping $ 7,000 million.

Sure, we are talking about Microsoft and for them, that amount in a decade is what you could spend on a Christmas dinner. Still, like he says, it's the pebble in your shoe.

Moreover, the fact that Microsoft stop to create Xbox hardware, save for the controller (which it will be universalised on PC, too, 'cos it is once again an amazing controller) and Kinect, doesn't mean that they will stop providing services with Live.

I agree with that guy and I have a feeling that Microsoft might stop making Xbox hardware at some point and will provide services for the PC, either this generation or the next. Maybe a smart decision without spending billions on hardware. You can play everything on PC, and games use Windows, Microsoft only has to provide the service.

As a console gamer, I want more and more consoles in the future. But I gotta admit that this theory makes me think twice...

Either that or merging Xbox and the PC. It is kinda happening...
 
I'd think if anything, MS's idea of a forward compatible architecture is the right one to follow. It would allow MS to release more powerful hardware in iterations while maintaining compatibility across all systems. The current XB1 could drop to $300 and they could release a new Xbox at a higher price point. I'm not super fond of the idea but can see people buying the newer hardware for the better graphical experience while budget minded gamers flock to the lower priced system. The games are all still in the same ecosphere so MS still benefits overall.
 
Trials Fusion. Pretty much the best game until the end of the year on my list.

All hail sebbbi and the fine talented people at RedLynx.
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I'd think if anything, MS's idea of a forward compatible architecture is the right one to follow. It would allow MS to release more powerful hardware in iterations while maintaining compatibility across all systems. The current XB1 could drop to $300 and they could release a new Xbox at a higher price point. I'm not super fond of the idea but can see people buying the newer hardware for the better graphical experience while budget minded gamers flock to the lower priced system. The games are all still in the same ecosphere so MS still benefits overall.

The future could also be that all gaming, movies, productivity etc is tied to your MS account with little to no differentiation between the endpoints. So ARM becomes not different from X86, Nvidia not different from AMD etc. All you need in the living room is a hockey puck which contains a barebones OS and an APU, but runs everything either through the cloud or through your higher power windows device somewhere in your house and is transmitted to you.

My hope to start this generation was that the MS team was creating a gaming server that you stash away in closet or rack somewhere and everyone in your house can simply log in from wherever they were and play the game they want to play. High powered single player games might require a higher end puck attached to the TV the person wants to play on, while lower end pucks would suffice for light gaming and web browsing and media.

If you already had a windows device attached to your tv, that device would suffice to provide a visual graphic level commensurate with its resident power. Each game would simply be a session on the server. If you were the only player on the server you get all of its power and so on.

If you were on the go... youd get the slingboxed version to your device (ala PS4 and Vita).

This makes the most sense with way MS has been reconstructing itself.
 
I think Ms messed up quite a bit with the intial always online DRM fiasco.
Still they corrected the mistake and avoided console suicide. On the other hand I think the Xbox one is receiving more scrutiny and animosity than it deserves. Sure it isnt the most powerful console this gen but that never seemed to really matter as much as it does now. I dont understand how certain sites and forums are already saying the system is DOOMED. In reality it is a well made system that has alot of potential. Why does this console generation have to be all or nothing in the first place?
 
Sure it isnt the most powerful console this gen but that never seemed to really matter as much as it does now.
That might be because the starting point was such a low target. Before, even the lowest power console was a technology flagship pushing the boundaries of what was possible and showing stuff never seen before. But because both consoles are well below the zenith of PC gaming gaming, the relative comparison is far less favourable. Instead of being the underdog console, but a powerful machine nonetheless for a couple of years, and an okay machine for a couple of years after that, and a cheap-and-cheerful machine after that, we have an underdog console that's an okay machine for a couple of years and then may well look extremely dated. The fact it's performing so badly from day one in cross-platform titles is what gives people cause. But in retail terms XB1 is doing fine, there's no reason to be 'afraid' it'll die off. If it's the platform that does what one wants, go for it.

The real issue is that it's not a great deal more than a games machine for a lot of potential consumers. It hasn't pushed home the all-in-one-uber-entertainment box with Kinect-motion-niche-loveliness. Its key features and vision have failed to be implemented into a strong USP, at least for the gamers, and its market presence is as an underperforming, overpriced game box.
 
I think Ms messed up quite a bit with the intial always online DRM fiasco.
Still they corrected the mistake and avoided console suicide. On the other hand I think the Xbox one is receiving more scrutiny and animosity than it deserves. Sure it isnt the most powerful console this gen but that never seemed to really matter as much as it does now. I dont understand how certain sites and forums are already saying the system is DOOMED. In reality it is a well made system that has alot of potential. Why does this console generation have to be all or nothing in the first place?
There is certainly some hope for the console. Especially when people get past the graphics craze thing.

It's not a meek console by any stretch of the imagination. I think it is the one that has at least most potential to evolve --despite the fact that all consoles will evolve, graphically wise.

News: :smile2:

Exclusive Japanese game for Xbox One.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/03/24/xbo...le-by-awesome-japanese-studio-says-microsoft/

Diablo 3 will be released on Xbox One!

http://www.vg247.com/2014/03/24/dia...-one-but-blizzard-cant-confirm-a-release-yet/

Xbox One could have paid Alphas in the future, according to Phil Spencer.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Micr...roduce-Paid-Alphas-in-the-Future-433725.shtml
 
Did anyone else get a 1.6GB system update this weekend?

Yes, it seems to have fixed an issue I was having resuming games after the console had been in hibernation. Also the updated game DVR quality is nice. The sound slider for adjusting volume between the main and snapped app doesn't seem to actually work for me. The star on recently updated apps is kind of pointless IMO. Haven't spent a ton of time with it all however.
 

We also asked him about the chances of seeing an Xbox One version of Diablo 3, to which he replied:
“I can’t say when or if that will happen only that we develop for both platforms as part of what we do. If it does come to Xbox One we’ll make announcement, once that’s for certain.”

Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/diablo-3-on-p...frame-rate-and-resolution#dl1LJlsE8PcbE8oG.99

http://gamingbolt.com/diablo-3-on-ps4-aiming-for-highest-possible-frame-rate-and-resolution
 
Ah okay, so it is uncertain for now. It seems highly likely that it will be released on the Xbox One, but you never know.

On a different note... Is this too much of a coincidence after what we talked about the Xbox leaving the console space? The whims of fate? Coincidence or not, Phil Spencer has just said that Microsoft are also going to focus on PC Gaming.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/21/5534188/microsoft-renewed-focus-on-windows-pc-gaming-phil-spencer


"A renewed focus on Windows and PC gaming inside Microsoft is definitely happening," he continued
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"I think Valve's an incredible company," Spencer said. "They've been the backbone of PC gaming for the last decade, and as the Windows company, I appreciate what they've done. They have, in a lot of ways, focused more on PC gaming than we have."

Spencer said he viewed competition from Valve and other platform holders as a boon to Microsoft. "We learn a ton from Sony and Nintendo," he said, "so more people competing in this space is a good thing."


Spencer said we'll hear more about the company's Windows PC gaming plans this summer, as "more talks and different technology" are shown.


"We have a longer term plan for multiplayer gaming and marketplace on Windows."

Read more in the full news...
 
Awesome sales on Xbox Live this weekend.

Thief and Tomb Raider 50% off on the Xbox One.

Plus Bioshock Infinite 67% off -this includes the DLC, it seems- for the Xbox 360. The temptation to buy this one is beyond me.

It is the ONLY game that I consider to be a thorn in my side for not having it on the previous generation (if I add indies and arcades, plus retail, I had like more than 200 X360 games back in the day).

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ounts-xbox-one-thief-tomb-raider-this-weekend

I gotta make some space on my desktop table for the Xbox 360, but I don't know where... I shall connect it to the TV via VGA or HDMI, we shall see.
 
I got Bioshock Infinite and all the expansions because of the aforementioned offer.

A little guide on how to get Kinect to hear you better. (gotta try it tonight, 'cos I managed to place the X360 close to the X1 to download Bioshock Infinite and had to move things around, I've also connected the TV to a Hi-Fi system for better sound, doing justice to SHAPE --not the 7.1 system I dream about but it's an advance)

http://www.xb1.co.uk/features/how-to-get-kinect-to-hear-you-better-on-xbox-one/

Regarding Kinect, my last thoughts on it... I just hope Microsoft never ever remove it from the Xbox One. It's the foundation of the console. :smile2:

The screw-up is done already. Removing Kinect is like leaving Xbox One lifeless and soulless.

I wouldn't want Microsoft to reduce the price like Nintendo or Sony did back in the day, which in order to drop the price of the console began to remove things. Sigh... :(

Cheapest strategy I could ever think of.

Nintendo did with the 3DS transforming it into the 2DS. :neutral:

Sony for instance slashed like 200€ of the price of the PS3 after its first year by removing BC, switching to a Hard Drive with less space, less inputs and outputs...:-|

The same can be said about the PSP and Vita and the quality reduction of materials, or changing the display... :neutral:

Kinect on the other hand is good to have, it can be functional, and now that everyone has it, any developer can use it.

Someone will appear along the way and use it smartly over time.
 
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Heard something interesting on a podcast, John Davison's XBO Kinect broke, and in order to cross ship him a new one MS charged his card a $160 hold (until they received the defective one). Which he pointed out, is the closest we have to a price on the Kinect.

If MS could comfortably sell a $340 XBO minus Kinect, wow I'd think that would do amazing. Further, they could probably push it down to $299 it's close enough.
 
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