New 'ATI' slides showing marketing information, post X1000 launch
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They'd have a point if I could actually buy an ATi card that beats the 7800GTX across the board. Or if I could buy a midrange card before the end of November. Or if they'd released their line up months ago. Or if they hadn't completely botched the Crossfire launch. Or if I couldn't point to driver releases of theirs which were full of unfixed bugs. Or if they didn't continually claim to be above NVIDIA's PR tactics, and then go and make these kind of presentations.
Roll. Eyes.
Roll. Eyes.
PaulS said:
I don't have a problem with "these kind of presentations" in general, so long as they hit the public sphere in fairly short order, as this one apparently did (less than a week). They can then be critiqued on their own merits (or demerits) in individual cases by the community. Both companies are absolutely entitled to their own pov's and presenting those in public.
What drives me batty is when this sh*t is floating around in the background, impacting the talking points and thinking of our "opinion leaders" while Joe Public is left scratching our collective heads where certain ideas are coming from.
At least when they reliably get into the public sphere there is at least some incentive for the IHV's to consider backlash from being too extravagant/vicious in their claims. I suspect the emails we never see from PR departments are a whole lot more emotional/slanted than these things. . .
While I don't mind this stuff at all really, I think you should contemplate whether Joe Public really has any idea at all about this crap. I can guarantee that the average person doesn't have any idea about the Nvidia crap, or about this presentation. Unless it was placed on the cover art of the box saying "ATI/NV told us to say this" then the average person would not be aware, so divuldging it serves little purpose beyond the inquisitive nature of those present at a site like this.geo said:
Sxotty said:
Then who are they trying to influence with these things, and why?
You can't have it both ways. Tho I think we are just in different context. I consider the natives (minus staff) of places like this "Joe Public", and the battle to win the hearts and minds there has an impact on enthusiast and upper-midrange sales, in my view, either directly, or as those folks become secondary opinion leaders of their own in their own circles.Geo, that is fine, but Joe public is not on this website that is what I am saying. Joe public is walking thru bestbuy and sees a cover box with marketing check points on it from supposedly independent sources 'THG best hardware" and so forth.
The people here are the people that joe public asks what to buy and then buys something else anyway.
The people here are the people that joe public asks what to buy and then buys something else anyway.
At least there's something wrong with the techpowerup page... it keeps reloading after a few seconds when viewed with Opera.
Claiming someone will do something and then debunking it "beforehands" is just poor style IMO. And the "24 pages of bug and errata notes" are kind of funny if you can read the titles in the screenshot.
Claiming someone will do something and then debunking it "beforehands" is just poor style IMO. And the "24 pages of bug and errata notes" are kind of funny if you can read the titles in the screenshot.
It is a stretch to claim that since you had high internal precision pixel shaders, you had HDR. The next to last slide is quite humorous. They list a bunch of rhetorical questions attacking NV and then say "Do not fall for their tactics". Whose tactics? NV? Or the rhetorical questions crossed out by the "Do not fall...." line, heheheh.
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