NBA2K6 Screens - holy crap!
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mckmas8808
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Dang it why didn't I think of that? I forgot that with next-gen you can't judge using screenshots. We're going to need interactive videogame magazines soon that can show a short video of the game.
I think many people missed something the people at 2k sports mentioned. They said they would show football in a big way at x05. That made me wonder. could they have switched to the biggest football sport around the world? I'm not talking about the NFL either...
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Qroach said:
Oh god..if they make a soccer (football) game. I will weep. Knowing the 2K series...it probably going to look great!
They can release an unlicensed or licensed-by-some-sports-related American football product. The problem is that the market has barely been large enough for two successful official NFL games, so publishers know that a non-NFL product will have an extremely limited audience at best. They simply can't commission a comparable development budget to compete with Madden, and Visual Concepts was already developing with much smaller teams than their counterparts at EA anyway. Visual Concepts is putting their effort into basketball because that's where the real competition for them has to be; football can only aspire to be an experiment on the side for them.
I am not a big soccer fan. That said, you take these NBA2K6 graphics, add in the KILLER gamplay of Internetational Superstart Soccer '98 (N64), then I would be excited. Animation and great responsible control--that transitions well on sudden breaks--really makes a soccer game look great IMO. Hopefully they can come up with something BIG!Qroach said:
I am not much of a soccer fan (American Football snob, I know, I know... I am an idiot) but ISS was GREAT. Did the series get a new name?http://ign64.ign.com/articles/153/153848p1.html
chroniceyestrain
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In the rumor section of EGM a few issues ago, it mentioned that VC has been looking to sign hall of fame football players.
Jon Brittan said:
The thing is that the Fifa name, does not include the team rights, so Pro Evo can go to each individual league federation and get the rights for each team. While the NFL and Players union owns all player rights and team rights, and you can't negociate with the teams individually like you can for the soccer.. or with the spanish federation, italian federation and so on.
Which means if the only thing that matters if the team names and players, EA have the monopoly. But if you don't mind playing American Football with fictitious teams and payers, there's nothing stopping a different and possibly better game (certainly more 'rough' given the news on NFL so far!).
On a related note, has anyone seen the EU (or maybe only UK?) FIFA 2006 TV advert? The endorsment by world-famous players...how much money are EA throwing at advertising?!
On a related note, has anyone seen the EU (or maybe only UK?) FIFA 2006 TV advert? The endorsment by world-famous players...how much money are EA throwing at advertising?!
therealskywolf
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It's amazing. They should do a Football game, and when i say that i really mean a FOOTball game.
Foot...get it? Only in the U.S can a sport, in wich hands are what treats the object of the game 99% of the game be called Football.
Oh well, i hope Konami threats us with some cloth physics too.
Did i say that the game looks mindblowing?
lol Give it a rest man.
Foot...get it? Only in the U.S can a sport, in wich hands are what treats the object of the game 99% of the game be called Football.
Oh well, i hope Konami threats us with some cloth physics too.
Did i say that the game looks mindblowing?
one said:30fps is not exactly a problem, as there are several titles in development that are under 30fps now. I don't think Gamespot is backing it's in 60fps as GS just relays "it would be..." comment by the dev, let's see again when it launchs
lol Give it a rest man.
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American Football is closely tied to the Teams & Players. Be it Collegiate or Professional players want to play their favorite teams and players.Shifty Geezer said:
What other series is capable of minor upgrades--namely adjusting the roster--and is capable of multiple million copy sales year in and year out?
Where Soccer is different is that there are different leagues, national teams, and it is an Olympic sport. It is a multinational affair. I am certain the names are important in Soccer as well, but there seems to be a much broader appeal and fanbase depending on context.
American Football is simple:
NFL
NCAA
Nothing else. There are arcade games (Blitz, Street) but those are like playing Mario Strikers and trying to compete--every year--with a new copy
It would be a very risky effort to develop a Professional Football game and trying to compete with EA. EA has1. The NFL players and teams
2. The Madden name
3. ESPN (gonna fool a lot of casual ESPN fans; lure others)
4. Long established franchise
5. NCAA connectivity
Who in their right mind is going to invest $20M to compete against that?
Maybe VC could have done a one shot "Hall of Fame" game. Or maybe gone the other route and done the ficticious High School deal... work your way up from a High School Freshman and try to get into College and then the Pros. But hearing some numbers recently a lot of players don't even do franchise.
Kind of irrelevant, but being better is not good enough either. Madden took some hard licks in 96/97/98 (they even cancelled the first year on the PS1 because of Gameday). NFL2K had been widely praised by a host of game critics as being a better game for a lot of years--but still sold poorly.
Why? Because us old school Madden players (like me) did not bother giving 2K much of a chance. Now I do own 2 copies from the last couple years and I liked it (personal taste: preferred Madden) but there was no doubt it was better in certain years than Madden. Yet Madden still sold.
So VC, without the ESPN name, and also without the NFL can only be assumed to do worse. Better gameplay never helped in the past. This last years sales cut was a move to get more players hooked and I know a lot of people who did. EA was afraid of this and the rest is history. Oh well.
VC has some serious talent. Their 2K NBA and NFL series have been VERY good.
Heres looking forward to a killer NBA and Soccer titles from VC!
chroniceyestrain
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therealskywolf said:
By the middle of the 19th century, football had split into two distinct entities, football and rugby football. American football evolved as a separate sport from rugby football in the late 19th century.
From http://www.wordorigins.org/wordors.htm
Soccer is an abbreviation for Association Football. The Football Association was formed in London in October 1863 when representatives of eleven clubs and schools met in an attempt to standardize the rules of the game. One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it from Rugby.
By 1889, the abbreviation socca' was in use, and the spelling soccer had made its appearance by 1895.
Sorry about the OT but I thought many would find this interesting.
Further OT on soccer. In just about every soccer stadium in Spain, Italy and Eastern Europe, black players are greeted with fans mimicking monkeys.
A lot of clubs all over Europe allow sections of their stadia to be occupied by would-be fascists saluting Hitler and making slogans about concentration camps.
The sport is beautiful but it has an ugly past which the minders (UEFA and FIFA) seem to be in no hurry to shed.
Will watch the WC next year though.
A lot of clubs all over Europe allow sections of their stadia to be occupied by would-be fascists saluting Hitler and making slogans about concentration camps.
The sport is beautiful but it has an ugly past which the minders (UEFA and FIFA) seem to be in no hurry to shed.
Will watch the WC next year though.
wco81 said:
Yeah that is sad. Take a look at this pic:
http://www.couchmaster.ca/images/pod/hitler-salute.jpg
And he's a football player.... disgusting.
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Football is football - 'Foot' and 'Ball'. Europe has seen many variations including one at a Eton I believe, with a wall and door and a lot of scrapping. where no goal has been scored in many, many years, but boys have been seriously injured playing.
However, football began as it has now matured to. It was invented by the Chinese, historians have found. There's records of a game entitled, in a word for word translation from Chinese to English, 'Foot-ball', and consisted of two teams trying to score points by maneouvering a ball into a silk net using only their feet.
The Chinese had it right, the existing 'soccer' fans have it right, and everyone else is just plain crazy
However, football began as it has now matured to. It was invented by the Chinese, historians have found. There's records of a game entitled, in a word for word translation from Chinese to English, 'Foot-ball', and consisted of two teams trying to score points by maneouvering a ball into a silk net using only their feet.
The Chinese had it right, the existing 'soccer' fans have it right, and everyone else is just plain crazy
now if only they animated like the lebron james promo http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23404
Acert93 said:
I don't think you'll be able to make a football (excuse me yanks, soccer) game look as good as a basketball game. The ball physics has to be more detailed, there are 22 players on the field at once etc.
I don't know if Konami has decided to just focus on Pro Evolution Soccer and discontinued its more arcadey cousin that is ISS. ISS went downhill after the N64 version and PES is what's considered the best football game out there. Man, I can't wait for the PS3 version of Pro Evolution Soccer.