mckmas8808
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jvd said:
One word again. YES! Why do they have to show finished hardware on your terms. Janurary is when we should be seeing A and B and maybe C. That's 3 to 5 months before the release. Not bad if they bring it hard.
MS xbox360 launch hype tactics?
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One word again. YES! Why do they have to show finished hardware on your terms. Janurary is when we should be seeing A and B and maybe C. That's 3 to 5 months before the release. Not bad if they bring it hard.
mckmas8808 said:
Its not my terms . Its the industrys terms .
Or do you forget all the websites that claimed games weren't great or weren't going to hit launch cause they were playable at e3 which was what 6 months before the xbox 360 launch and that final hardware wasnt finished and they would never make launch with good games
Why are they showing us demos and videos instead of actual games . What is wrong with the games or the hardware .
Why no playable hardware anywhere ? Do devs even have it ?
Where is the finalized bluray ? Ms started making units in sept . That is about 2 months before they launched. Which means anytime table u give us has to be reduced by that for production .
Sony has yet to show any proof they will hit thier spring date .
You can go on believing whatever you want , i can't stop u . YOu go on believing the unit wont be expensive and they will make a spring launch . But when it doesn't come true dont go around trying to run damage control
mckmas8808
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jvd said:
For of all unlike others I don't do the damage control thing. Sony hasn't also show no proof that they won't hit their spring date either. Yet they said they will. Is it actually possible that Sony have a different business model than the great unstopable Microsoft!?!?
What!?!At the end of the day if Sony launches the PS3 in June 23rd or later than yes you would have been correct and I would be the first person to tell you you were. No problem for me.
For of all unlike others I don't do the damage control thing. Sony hasn't also show no proof that they won't hit their spring date either. Yet they said they will. Is it actually possible that Sony have a different business model than the great unstopable Microsoft!?!?
At the end of the day if Sony launches the PS3 in June 23rd or later than yes you would have been correct and I would be the first person to tell you you were. No problem for me.
Please your the one still running around even after a number of interviews and articles stating killzone wasn't real , saying its possible .
But i'm not going to go into this with you as most likely i will be banned .
its all hype right?
they keep telling us, spring 06, spring 06, spring 06, spring 06. whether thats NA, Japan, Europe, or a total worldwide launch they keep saying spring 06.
what i dont get is why would they keep telling us this at every conference even this close to the end of the year when they dont think they can make spring 06, even in one region.
they keep showing us killzone, motorstorm and such over and over, and over and over. what i dont get is why they would keep showing us this footage if it were not possible. especially this late in the year.
ill keep belielieving in spring 06 until sony tells us otherwise. id rather hear it from the company themselves rather than hundreds of unbiased/biased journalist who like to speculate. so until sony says summer 06, or q3/q4of 06, or summer of 2009, ill keep on thinking sony is releasing in spring 06. if im wrong, im wrong, what am i gonna do. id rather be positive toward the situation than negative. they havent shown us any proof that killzone is not possible. they havent shown us any proof that spring 06 is not possible in any region, or worldwide.
god forbid if sony proves you guys wrong. the world would just stop now wouldnt it. some of you guys are so optimistic toward your favorite console, but love to talk negative when someone else is optimistic toward their favorite console. sorry, but it had to be said :/
its all hype right?
they keep telling us, spring 06, spring 06, spring 06, spring 06. whether thats NA, Japan, Europe, or a total worldwide launch they keep saying spring 06.
what i dont get is why would they keep telling us this at every conference even this close to the end of the year when they dont think they can make spring 06, even in one region.
they keep showing us killzone, motorstorm and such over and over, and over and over. what i dont get is why they would keep showing us this footage if it were not possible. especially this late in the year.
ill keep belielieving in spring 06 until sony tells us otherwise. id rather hear it from the company themselves rather than hundreds of unbiased/biased journalist who like to speculate. so until sony says summer 06, or q3/q4of 06, or summer of 2009, ill keep on thinking sony is releasing in spring 06. if im wrong, im wrong, what am i gonna do. id rather be positive toward the situation than negative. they havent shown us any proof that killzone is not possible. they havent shown us any proof that spring 06 is not possible in any region, or worldwide.
god forbid if sony proves you guys wrong. the world would just stop now wouldnt it. some of you guys are so optimistic toward your favorite console, but love to talk negative when someone else is optimistic toward their favorite console. sorry, but it had to be said :/
its all hype right?
Bad boy . Why would bethesta tell us holiday 05 , holiday 05 , holiday 05 and then push the game back till fiscal 2006 ?
Things happen. IN sonys case if they give us the perseption of a sooner launch date it will keep some that are on the fence on the fence. If they said yea we are launching in summer or whatever that will loose them some people over the holiday . This way after the holiday they can announce that the system date has slipped . Like they did when the dreamcast launched with internet capabilitys for 2 years and sony claimed they'd have online games also and it took what 2 years for it to happen ?
Things happen. IN sonys case if they give us the perseption of a sooner launch date it will keep some that are on the fence on the fence. If they said yea we are launching in summer or whatever that will loose them some people over the holiday . This way after the holiday they can announce that the system date has slipped . Like they did when the dreamcast launched with internet capabilitys for 2 years and sony claimed they'd have online games also and it took what 2 years for it to happen ?
mckmas8808 said:
The console "wars" are not lost or won based on what happens only on launch. We know that all the xboxes between launch and christmas are sold out more or less, and I am sure that Sony will sell all they PS3s when they launch and at whatever prise. The bulk of the sales comes much longer after the launch, when the prices go down. Launch says little about how the rest of the 5 years will pan out...
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Platon said:
I know that. What I said at the end was meant to be a joke. That's what MS fanguys will be saying if the PS3 far outsells the X360. They will be saying Sony out hyped MS and that Sony was at the right place at the right time. Trust me I know launch doesn't equal what your product will do in 5 years.
doesnt bethesta have a long history of delays?jvd said:
sony on the other hand, delivered on most of the dates when they actually told us the dates. (i cant recall back to the ps1 release) but for example, uk wasnt delayed the psp, they just didnt give it to them for a long while (im guessing to work on production), but when they told us the date they would get them, they got them.its funny because in the that oblivion delay thread it seemed you were the only one who could not beleive that it was going to get delayed being so optimistic that it was a rumor based of wrong facts or somthing, but when you use that game to compare to sony your not optimistic at all.
i dont think thats quite the same thing. your talking about software capabilities not hardware launch. for example again, the psp never launched with a web browser even though sony loved to market that it was very possible and probable before the psp launched.jvd said:
if im wrong on spring 06 then im wrong. bad for sony, but what am i gonna do. all i can do is wait. but im saying spring 06 (most likely japan release first like usual) until sony says otherwise, unlike some who are intent on their own speculated release dates being correct, i.e. 22 months after xbox360.
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Bad_Boy said:if im wrong on spring 06 then im wrong. bad for sony, but what am i gonna do. all i can do is wait. but im saying spring 06 (most likely japan release first like usual) until sony says otherwise, unlike some who are intent on their own speculated release dates being correct, i.e. 22 months after xbox360.
Me and you feel exactly the same on this issue. Like you said if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I would like to listen to Sony too over some posters.
doesnt bethesta have a long history of delays?
its funny because in the that oblivion delay thread it seemed you were the only one who could not beleive that it was going to get delayed being so optimistic that it was a rumor based of wrong facts or somthing, but when you use that game to compare to sony your not optimistic at all.
Sony has sliped on product releases . The amp i wanted for my car was delayed 6 months so was the receiver . They also had a ton of delays with mini discs
Yup i couldn't believe it was going to be delayed as i've actually played the game on the xbox 360 and thought it was running fine . I couldn't also believe it beucase it came out in a financial report and not from the developers themselves (Who still haven't comment it on )
Why would i believe sony ? Didn't they tell me the ps3 was going to have router type features built in and not even 2 months later they took out that feature ?
No they didn't. This has been covered quite a lot but you persist in using it as an example for Sony changng their minds. Not that I'm saying they don't - the best laid plans yadayada. But using the 'PS3 has already lost router functionality' argument doesn't work because router functionality was never promised for it in the first place.jvd said:
Why would you believe Microsoft then, they dropped the HD and wireless controlles from the core xbox360, certainly much more "bigger" features in a console than routing in anyone's book.
What has this got to do with Bethesda and Oblivion though, no more than Sony dropping features and their delays, not to speak of Microsoft "bullying" the retailers rumour
which is the topic of this thread, by the way
What has this got to do with Bethesda and Oblivion though, no more than Sony dropping features and their delays, not to speak of Microsoft "bullying" the retailers rumour
which is the topic of this thread, by the way
lol. they could delay making their own blank dvd's for all i care im talking about their pretty much biggest known product they create the playstation line. (ps1/ps2/psp/ps3)jvd said:
but they told us right? they didnt try to hide it until the last minute which obviously proves my point. if they keep saying spring 06 over and over, this late in the game, then i have no choice but to go by spring 06 until told otherwise. this is how delays work.jvd said:
exactly.rabidrabbit said:
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PSP slipped it's EU release, by something like 6 months I think.Bad_Boy said:
mckmas8808
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jvd said:
NO they didn't and you know better.
They talked (IIRC) of a whenever it was release, never giving a specific date, and that release never appeared. Sony are talking of a release area, but in the same way that might not happen. At the moment it's a target period, if all goes to plan, that they're aiming for. There's no guarentees it'll happen. All sorts of things can go wrong.Bad_Boy said:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=2770
gamesindustry.biz said:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=6625
gamesindustry.biz said:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=6977
gamesindustry.biz said:
exactly though, if they give no date, technically its not really a delay. ps3 has already been given a date, spring 06, not very specific but a date/period nonetheless whether thats a global launch or japan only we dont know yet. if ps3 does not make any date in that spring 06 then its been definately been delayed. (or if they officially tell us its been delayed)
if the EU launch was delayed, then the NA launch for the psp was delayed because they didnt tell us anything about the release until feb/early-march i beleive on when the NA psp's would launch. (probably because they were getting production up like you said) see my point?
another example
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=57807
ex. seeing a headline that says "Sony CEO confirms PS3 launch for Spring 2006" is definately more concrete than "Sony executives hope to deliver the PS3 Spring of 2006"
yeah its sucky how they word it. but its all we have to go by
but i agree with you, definately anything could happen from now and then, but like i said, if im wrong, im wrong.
if the EU launch was delayed, then the NA launch for the psp was delayed because they didnt tell us anything about the release until feb/early-march i beleive on when the NA psp's would launch. (probably because they were getting production up like you said) see my point?
another example
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=57807
saying they desire to release the psp in EU in march is different then actually saying we will launch the psp in EU in march. saying they would like to do somethin is different from actually doing it.
ex. seeing a headline that says "Sony CEO confirms PS3 launch for Spring 2006" is definately more concrete than "Sony executives hope to deliver the PS3 Spring of 2006"
yeah its sucky how they word it. but its all we have to go by
but i agree with you, definately anything could happen from now and then, but like i said, if im wrong, im wrong.
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uh, maybe it's just me but I fail to see the difference between the "desired PSP launch" and the "desired PS3 launch".
The PS3 launch is just as undecided and uncertain as was the PSP launch then, neither had/has been fiven more exact dates than "holiday season 04, spring 05, autumn 05, spring 06..."
The PS3 launch is just as undecided and uncertain as was the PSP launch then, neither had/has been fiven more exact dates than "holiday season 04, spring 05, autumn 05, spring 06..."