Motorstorm screens

[nAo]

I like that night mode. Play that in the dark with no lights (and a TV with decent blacks ) and it'll look very convincing.

give me a HDR TV and then it will look VERY convincing (sorry but once you see brightside tech in action you don't want to go back.. )

 

[London Geezer]

(sorry but once you see CRT tech in action you don't want to go back.. )

Corrected

 

[almighty]

give me a HDR TV and then it will look VERY convincing (sorry but once you see brightside tech in action you don't want to go back.. )

Brightside.........HDR.............

 

[wco81]

For Brightside to work, do you need their HDR capture technology?

Or will film converted for broadcast retain the HDR characteristics that a lot of digital photography lacks?

 

[almighty]

For Brightside to work, do you need their HDR capture technology?

It does help if the material your viewing has been recorded in HDR, but even normal LDR film's looks 10x better on Brightside's TV due to the insane contrast and brightness ratio's. They include a HDR movie clip i beleive with the TV to show what it can do. Game's that have HDR from what i have read look incredable on there TV. Im also certain there TV incorperate's some sort of technology that tries to make LDR image's/video look like HDR via some imagerocessing.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Game's that have HDR from what i have read look incredable on there TV.

How do they demo games? What connection do they use? Isn't HDMI 1.3 the only cable capable of HDR data?

 

[London Geezer]

How do they demo games? What connection do they use? Isn't HDMI 1.3 the only cable capable of HDR data?

Even then, the misconception of needing HDR TVs to display HDR games properly is just silly. HDR games don't output HDR signals, but get converted before output using tone mapping.

Sure the HDR displays will show amazing contrast and black levels, but the output will be the same as current games using HDR. Until someone actually makes a PC (or PS3?) output a pure HDR signal (i think it's 48-bit colour?) - which won't happen any time soon.

 

[almighty]

How do they demo games? What connection do they use? Isn't HDMI 1.3 the only cable capable of HDR data?

HDMI 1.3 is not the only connection that can transfer HDR content, if it was how could Brightside demo HDR on there TV when it does'nt support HDMI 1.3? As for what connection's support it i dont know

I recomened going to the brightside website to have a look at the technology behind it, its amazing to say the least.

 

[wco81]

Looks like the display is an LCD with LED backlights which are individually controllable?

I think even the mainline LCD makers are heading towards this direction.

 

[rounin]

Some motorstorm movies

http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=32080
http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=32078
http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=27443

 

[Graham]

give me a HDR TV and then it will look VERY convincing (sorry but once you see brightside tech in action you don't want to go back.. )

Yes Yes Yes. I remember having a play with one about 18 months ago. It was goodness wrapped in awesomeness mounted on a wall. Funny, as they were showing the infamous E3-05 Fightnight 'PS3' video, which was (according to the PR guy) a 12bit background with 8bit foreground. Looked good, but the artificial bloom ruined it

And iirc it was running on two DVI connectors. So certainly some fancy trickery going on.

Modulated array of LED backlights. Pretty simple and obvious, but did cause some issues with very small contrasting objects.

 

[London Geezer]

Looks like the display is an LCD with LED backlights which are individually controllable?

I think even the mainline LCD makers are heading towards this direction.

Yeah, at the moment just one set from Samsung is doing that. And even with this tech, Samsung managed to mess this one up - the contrast is just a little bit better than normal LCDs, instead of being MUCH better, like it should be. Don't ask me why or how...
Honestly...

 

[nAo]

Did not want to de-reail this thread but I wonder who was the first to come out with this (LEDs) idea..

 

[sif]

Yeah, at the moment just one set from Samsung is doing that. And even with this tech, Samsung managed to mess this one up - the contrast is just a little bit better than normal LCDs, instead of being MUCH better, like it should be. Don't ask me why or how...
Honestly...

Not a very well timed post london-boy, Sony announced an LED backlit LCD at CES about 6 hours ago. 70 inch, HDMI 1.3 with xvYCC and 120Hz refresh rate with the cool frame interpolation tech thats all the rage at CES this year amongst the LCD crowd. If executed properly could fix all the problems of LCD (apart from fixed panel res and resultant scaling). This tech will probably be incorporated into the rest of the 2007 X-series (or XBR if you are North American) when its announced in the Spring, if they follow release dates from last year. Makes me wonder what new tech the V, W and S series will be getting to differentiate themselves from last year.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/07/sony-announces-its-biggest-bravia-kd-70xbr3/

 

[London Geezer]

Not a very well timed post london-boy, Sony announced an LED backlit LCD at CES about 6 hours ago. 70 inch, HDMI 1.3 with xvYCC and 120Hz refresh rate with the cool frame interpolation tech thats all the rage at CES this year amongst the LCD crowd. If executed properly could fix all the problems of LCD (apart from fixed panel res and resultant scaling). This tech will probably be incorporated into the rest of the 2007 X-series (or XBR if you are North American) when its announced in the Spring, if they follow release dates from last year. Makes me wonder what new tech the V, W and S series will be getting to differentiate themselves from last year.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/07/sony-announces-its-biggest-bravia-kd-70xbr3/

Oh damn! Well things are definitely looking up for LCD!!

 

[Shifty Geezer]

No Cell processors in any of these CE goods?

 

[London Geezer]

No Cell processors in any of these CE goods?

Nope. We would know if that were the case, cause Sony would go on and on about how Cell makes these TVs better...

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Does anyone else find that a bit discouraging? Wasn't Cell supposed to feature in all the 2007 TVs?

 

[patsu]

Me ! Would be cool to see some Cell TV and appliances.

 

[wco81]

That 70-inch LCD is over $30k.

Sony showed TVs which will play Internet video. They are using the XMB interface.

As far as LED backlights, it's got to be expensive to have an array of them which is of any size. Larger than Brightside's 37-inch anyways.

If they hit a breakthrough on costs and output, there's talk that LEDs could replace flourescent and incandescent for general lighting.