Prophecy2k
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I think this "easily confused masses" only exists in the heads of company CEOs. The average gamer these days is probably more well informed about games these days than the average gaming "journalist".
Kojima leaves Konami to start new Studio *Confirmed*
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I think this "easily confused masses" only exists in the heads of company CEOs. The average gamer these days is probably more well informed about games these days than the average gaming "journalist".
Why would it be?
I still can't understand how you can remove all reference to a game's creator from all public information. That's basically like Putin's some countries' attempt to re-write history.
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I wonder how many purchasers will really know or care about this?
The likes of you and I on forums like this or on gamer sites will likely know who Kojima is but I reckon across the market of tens of millions of console owners (150+ 360+PS3 owners combined) that this number of probably a minority. I still find it surprising how many people pay so little heed to producers, directors or writers of movies and TV and that's an entertainment medium far bigger and more prevalent than games.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Well, not Jurassic Park in particular, but any film. It just makes no sense.
It's not really about how many people care about it, though, is it?
Huge directors such as Spielberg or Cameron will probably attract people knowing that the film they're about to see is directed by them, but that's not the point.
Universal/Fox/whoever would never remove the director's name from their Jaws/Jurassic/Avatar websites, to name just a few examples. This is what is happening at Konami, and I just don't understand how that can be allowed.
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No, and to be clear I'm not say that lack of relevance makes it right, my point is that removing credits likely has very little real impact on sales. The fans will still know, those ignorant of the actual key developers behind their games, won't know/care. In real terms, it's a shitty thing to do but it changes nothing.
Movie studios can't do this; pretty much everybody in the film industry - writers, directors, crew, actors - are all members of unions or guilds which mandate things like credits. This has been one of many points made by some in the games industry, wanting games being properly recognised as a form of entertainment like movies so that those involved can be recognised as "artists" (whatever that means) and perhaps even protected. BAFTA awards for games are big step forward but there's a long way to go.
Has Konami removed Kojima's name form the credits of past MGS?
Also is Konami removing Kojima's name form MGSV credits or simply the advertising?
Ia am not even sure that is legal to remove a contributor's name without his permission from the credits, especially if it is the director.
Also is Konami removing Kojima's name form MGSV credits or simply the advertising?
Ia am not even sure that is legal to remove a contributor's name without his permission from the credits, especially if it is the director.
Kojima style is much less compatible with MS fanbase than with Playstation.
I would instead see Konami making an exclusive deal with MS, making the next games standard shooters without any of the MGS4 quirkiness (reboot/remake the whole series), while Kojima goes with Sony for new franchises. Everybody wins.
I would instead see Konami making an exclusive deal with MS, making the next games standard shooters without any of the MGS4 quirkiness (reboot/remake the whole series), while Kojima goes with Sony for new franchises. Everybody wins.
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I would be astonished if Shuhei Yoshida has not already informally reached out to Kojima if only just to find out what he'd like to do next. It would be foolish not too. I'm not suggesting any kind of commitment, but just to see if what Kojima wants to do meshes with something that Sony values.
And if Sony were the only company reaching out to Kojima, I'll eat my hat.
What kind of hat?
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That sure is a healthy amount of fiber.
Prophecy2k
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Microsoft doesn't really have much in the way of a development presence in Japan.
Other Japanaese 3rd party pubs are pretty much going the way of the dodo.
So that really only leaves Sony and Nintendo to snap up Kojima and his team seniors. Nintendo doesn't really cater to the market for Kojima games. So by a process of elimination that leaves only one real option...
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Other Japanaese 3rd party pubs are pretty much going the way of the dodo.
So that really only leaves Sony and Nintendo to snap up Kojima and his team seniors. Nintendo doesn't really cater to the market for Kojima games. So by a process of elimination that leaves only one real option...
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iOS development.
That sure is a tasty looking hat. You are obviously a connoisseur!
Silent_Buddha
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I wouldn't exactly say that considering Microsoft published the PC version of MGS 1 (PS version is MGS: Integral) and MGS 2 (MGS 2: Substance on PS). Some might say that isn't relevant as that was a long time ago, however, it appears that the PC side of Microsoft has regained power with a significant PC gaming push. It would not surprise me at all that if the original Xbox hadn't come along (and thus begin the deathknell for PC game publishing at MS as the console guys started to gain power), that Microsoft would have continued to publish a PC version of MGS.
With that PC-centric view at MS at the moment, the XBO is seen as an extension of the PC rather than something separate from PC.
That said, I'd say it's highly (extremely) unlikely for Kojima to go to MS. Not because it wouldn't be a good fit, but it's quite likely some other publisher would offer him more money than MS would be willing to offer him. That's assuming he doesn't have a strong desire to be an independent games developer, which I wouldn't put past him.
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SB
