It's official: PSP has 32 MB + 4 MB eDRAM

Lazy8s said:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/psp/psp_screen007.jpg

Branding like this makes me worried they're out of touch with the market.

How so? To me that's EXACTLY the market I expected them to market the PSP to.

They are trying to take it to mass market instead of niche market of video games. They are trying to make it "cool". I said this before, even though Nintendo has sold zillions of GBAs, they aren't "cool" to the average consumer. But IF Sony can make the PSP look cool (and thus appeal to the non-gaming public), they have another Walkman on their hands.
 
Enbar said:
A Sony rep told me that the 10 hour figure is when the screen is not in use at all (music playback and such). I asked if the 2.5 hour figure was typical for gameplay, but he didn't give a clear answer.

.......Ouuuch......

Ty said:
They are trying to take it to mass market instead of niche market of video games. They are trying to make it "cool". I said this before, even though Nintendo has sold zillions of GBAs, they aren't "cool" to the average consumer. But IF Sony can make the PSP look cool (and thus appeal to the non-gaming public), they have another Walkman on their hands.

Mass market? At that price? That's a pretty big audio player... :LOL:
 
I finally figured out why i have mixed feelings about the PSP: That thing is just too fragile. It looks more like a sexy geek gadget which is good to have on display when your trendy friends from art school come to visit you (;)) but not so good from a gamers point of view.

I like the very robust DS a lot better from that perspective, even though it looks a bit clumsy and not half as pretty as the PSP. But then i'm more interested in watching the screen(s) than the device itself ;) Also i won't be afraid to drop that thing.

At least we got some competition now in that market, that's good!
 
PC-Engine said:
Mass market? At that price? That's a pretty big audio player... :LOL:

Definately true. If you consider it as only a MP3 player you're much better served elsewhere. However, if you want to watch movies, OTA TV (not mentioned but I would imagine possible), play games, etc. this could be the ticket. It may not be the best at any one function but it sure looks hella good imo. And remember, by "Mass Market", I just mean beyond the niche sector traditionally made up of "gamers".
 
It's not a really good movie player if you can't play your existing DVD collection on it. I really can't see many people buying movies just to watch it on a little screen and nowhere else. Does the PSP have video out jack?
 
It's not a really good movie player if you can't play your existing DVD collection on it. I really can't see many people buying movies just to watch it on a little screen and nowhere else. Does the PSP have video out jack?
Well it would make a nice replacement for those existing portable DVD players that can't do anything else then play movies. But yeah, it depends if the media will ever take off.
 
PC-Engine said:
It's not a really good movie player if you can't play your existing DVD collection on it. I really can't see many people buying movies just to watch it on a little screen and nowhere else. Does the PSP have video out jack?

Yeah if the UMD movies are priced the same as DVDs, who's going to buy them? Maybe if Netflix rents them. But I think they really overestimate the market for video on the go, as Microsoft has with their "iPod Killer."

For $300, you can get one of those portable DVD players with a larger LCD screen, probably better battery life and both video and 5.1 audio outs.

You really wonder if the other studios will put out UMD movies. They are waiting and seeing on HD DVD vs. Blue Ray while they milk the DVD for all its worth.
 
Lazy8s said:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/psp/psp_screen007.jpg

Branding like this makes me worried they're out of touch with the market.

Huh? Looking at sales data, marketshare and history, I´d say that your statement is a few centimeters short from being considered trolling.
 
Ty:
It's the tone of the ad; it projects a kind of soulless, exclusionary chic that the mainstream neither identifies with nor wants to be a part of. This style is actually quite common (especially among large Japanese companies) for branding higher-end consumer and business electronics - a niche market. You can view a whole stock of such ad types if you're interested over at the satirical website http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/ by searching around a bit, but be aware that there may be some offensive material there.

This PSP branding effort is misdirected like those old Xbox Music Mixer ads, though not in the same way.
 
wco81 said:
PC-Engine said:
It's not a really good movie player if you can't play your existing DVD collection on it. I really can't see many people buying movies just to watch it on a little screen and nowhere else. Does the PSP have video out jack?

Yeah if the UMD movies are priced the same as DVDs, who's going to buy them? Maybe if Netflix rents them. But I think they really overestimate the market for video on the go, as Microsoft has with their "iPod Killer."

For $300, you can get one of those portable DVD players with a larger LCD screen, probably better battery life and both video and 5.1 audio outs.

You really wonder if the other studios will put out UMD movies. They are waiting and seeing on HD DVD vs. Blue Ray while they milk the DVD for all its worth.

Actually there are pretty good portable DVD players that go for $200 with a 7" screen, remote, optical output, etc. The problem I see is that you can't play UMD movies on anything other than PSP and on top of that you can't hook up PSP to a tv either so you can't enjoy a new movie on your television set. If you want to watch this movie on your tv, you have to buy another version on DVD. :?

However the most alarming thing to me is the battery life while playing games. The LCD is not viewable in daylight like on the GBA so the light has to be on all the time. It's good that the brightness control will be serving double duty though, which should help battery life when playing games.
 
Would it even look as good as a DVD on a big TV screen? If the UMD movies are targeted at only a 480x272 screeen, you wonder how good it would look on a TV, especially an HDTV scaled to 480p.
 
I think Lazy8 is right. They are targeting the iPod audience here. Definitely not kids. The whole thing kinda reminds me of the Game Gear (which even had an optional TV thingy and also very low battery life), and i'm getting a feeling that it might go the same way.
 
I think Lazy8 is right. They are targeting the iPod audience here.

Well it isn't much of a reach... Sony's only been publicly stating that for like what? The past few months?
 
I think Lazy8 is right. They are targeting the iPod audience here.
Initially, they are targeting 18-34 year olds (which is basically iPod market), as they said in their conference. Going by that, I think advertising (if you can call two promo pics advertising) seems pretty well directed.
 
I dunno if it's been mentioned in this thread or not (haven't read it all) but PSP's new spec of 32 MB memory plus 4 MB eDRAM will almost certainly make the PSP SoC smaller than the old spec of 12 MB eDRAM.

I suppose PSP SoC will no longer be over 100 million transistors.

am I wrong?

it would be suicide if Sony sold this for more than $299.

I'm still hoping for the $200~$250 price that was mentioned a few months or weeks ago.
 
cthellis42 said:
DS certainly doesn't have any "reductionist" features--if nothing else it has more than was being mentioned when we first heard about it. My disappointment in it so far, though, would stem from not making real use of its unique features (the two screens and touch-sensitivity) in games--"necessities" rather than "neat extras." I would expect to see the earliest games pushed in unique directions, and I would expect Nintendo to have the earliest and best examples of that--to set trends for the future if nothing else.

I'm sure some companies will make better use of the extra features in the future, but at the moment it looks like they may be few and slow to come if Nintendo isn't pushing for them out of the starting block.

I suppose you didn't look at Animal Crossing then? It makes quite good use of the touch screen, which is for drawing textures, etc. and other AC features. Plus there are screens showing a bargain between two players via chat in the AC world. So this could be the first DS online title Nintendo hinted at.
Wario Ware also seems to make good use of the 2nd screen.

Don't jump to conclusions just because you've see Mario Kart...
 
wco81 said:
Would it even look as good as a DVD on a big TV screen? If the UMD movies are targeted at only a 480x272 screeen, you wonder how good it would look on a TV, especially an HDTV scaled to 480p.

Probably not, but better than VHS which isn't so bad IF it was even possible. As it stands, I think the movie capabilities of PSP will rarely be used by most people relegating it to being a gimmick feature. The MP3 playback may be more useful than the movie playback considering you can just transfer MP3s to the Memory Stick provided you have one. The best thing about PSP is it's gaming capability, but even that is crippled by battery life. I'm guessing 3 hrs max.
 
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