It's official: PSP has 32 MB + 4 MB eDRAM

Lazy8s said:
It's the tone of the ad; it projects a kind of soulless, exclusionary chic that the mainstream neither identifies with nor wants to be a part of.

Just about anything exclusionary equates to a substantial portion of the public wishing to be a part of it - we all want what we can't have. Chic? Yes of course. It's meant to be portrayed as "hip & cool". What did you expect? Business suits pounding away at GTA?

Lazy8s said:
This style is actually quite common (especially among large Japanese companies) for branding higher-end consumer and business electronics - a niche market.

And there are many more examples of this type of marketing using mainstream products which completely invalidates your supposition that this type of marketing equates to niche sectors in the market.

Lazy8s said:
You can view a whole stock of such ad types if you're interested over at the satirical website http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/ by searching around a bit, but be aware that there may be some offensive material there.

I didn't see many but admittedly I didn't search around much. Then again, finding a few ads that make light of the same approach on a geeky site (they aren't part of the mainstream and yet long to be accepted and popular ;) ) probably furthers my argument.

Lazy8s said:
This PSP branding effort is misdirected like those old Xbox Music Mixer ads, though not in the same way.

Don't remember those.
 
I dunno if it's been mentioned in this thread or not (haven't read it all) but PSP's new spec of 32 MB memory plus 4 MB eDRAM will almost certainly make the PSP SoC smaller than the old spec of 12 MB eDRAM.

I suppose PSP SoC will no longer be over 100 million transistors.

am I wrong?

I think you're right. I find it interesting, how their 90nm process can't handle to put all the memory into its embedded form. I guess the original spec, really was like the maximum they can achieved on 90nm process for reasonable price. I was expecting all the memory to be embedded, inline with their SoC announcement last E3.

I really want to know what kind of main memory they put in it.

it would be suicide if Sony sold this for more than $299.

In US probably yes, in Japan, they probably can get away with it.

I'm still hoping for the $200~$250 price that was mentioned a few months or weeks ago

Competition will be fierced. So expects the price tumbles.
 
PC-Engine said:
Is it just me or is that hardly PS2 quality. It looks even less than DC.

I don't intend to interrupt your flow of finding faults with PSP and reasons not to buy one, but I think you need to slow up a bit and put things in perspective. Especially after that comment.
 
While I don't have any concerns about its supposed processing power and amount of RAM...only thing that makes me think twice about buying PSP is its battery life...
 
Is it just me or is that hardly PS2 quality. It looks even less than DC.

it looks roughly PS2 quality. in some ways not quite upto PS2, in other ways better than PS2.

PSP seems closer to PS2 than Nintendo DS is to Nintendo64. at least from what ive seen.

my opinion could easily change with more examination.
 
Is it just me or is that hardly PS2 quality. It looks even less than DC.

Yeah, its not upto PS2 MGS3 quality, its more like the recent GC MGS, which was pretty bad MGS given it was on GC. I guess, you do need the budget to do proper job to get it to the PS2 quality.
 
Hot, damn hot --> http://www.the-magicbox.com/0405/game051104i.shtml

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Why would someone want to plug their brand spanking new hi-tech hi-res 42"+ HDTV to a bloody PSP to watch movies is completely beyond me.

It seems some people just NEED to find flaws around certain products whatever the product is.
 
london-boy said:
Why would someone want to plug their brand spanking new hi-tech hi-res 42"+ HDTV to a bloody PSP to watch movies is completely beyond me.

It seems some people just NEED to find flaws around certain products whatever the product is.

Why don't you just get over it unless you have a valid argument? ;)

Do YOU have a plasma? Didn't think so. :LOL:

I'm betting you'll be one of the first numbnuts to buy a UMD movie just because it's from Columbia/Tristar :LOL:
 
london-boy said:
PC-Engine said:
Why don't you just get over it unless you have a valid argument? ;)

Do YOU have a plasma? Didn't think so. :LOL:

Answer my question without being an ass as usual.

I only answer questions that make sense. I'm afraid yours doesn't even come close.
 
PC-Engine said:
I only answer questions that make sense. I'm afraid yours doesn't even come close.

Really? I think it makes perfect sense. Besides, why posting if you don't think it makes sense and make yourself look like the usual idiot.

Why would i want to waste time plugging my PSP to my £2000+ HDTV to watch the same movies i have on DVD (because from what we hear, we would only be able to "transfer" our existing DVD collection to PSP media), but at lower resolution? When i can just watch the freaking DVD itself...
 
london-boy said:
PC-Engine said:
I only answer questions that make sense. I'm afraid yours doesn't even come close.

Really? I think it makes perfect sense. Besides, why posting if you don't think it makes sense and make yourself look like the usual idiot.

Why would i want to waste time plugging my PSP to my £2000+ HDTV to watch the same movies i have on DVD (because from what we hear, we would only be able to "transfer" our existing DVD collection to PSP media), but at lower resolution? When i can just watch the freaking DVD itself...

First of all your question regarding HDTV should be directed to wco81 not me. ;)

Second, what if you want to only buy one copy of a movie and watch it on both a tv set and on PSP?

Third if you want to watch your existing DVD collection on-the-go. You get this for $200. Comes with remote, charger, car adapter, headphones, optical out, 3:2 pulldown, progressive scan component out. Oh it has a 7" widescreen and plays DVD+/-RW too. Anymore stupid questions?

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PC-Engine said:
First of all your question regarding HDTV should be directed to wco81 not me. ;)

Second, what if you want to only buy one copy of a movie and watch it on both a tv set and on PSP?

Third if you want to watch your existing DVD collection on-the-go. You get this for $200. Comes with remote, charger, car adapter, optical out, progressive scan component out. Oh and it plays DVD+/-RW too.

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First of all the question WAS directed to him, but as usual you need to stick you nose everywhere.

Second, IF movies will be sold on UMD (VERY UNLIKELY), then people will only buy them to watch them on PSP, not because they know they can plug it to their brand new HDTV, when they can just buy a normal DVD (which will probably cost the same) and enjoy much better resolution and sound.

Third, i never mentioned anything about on-the-go, i only asked a simple question (NOT to you) about the NEED to plug a PSP to a HDTV.

As usual you extrapolate arguments out of nothing.
 
Actually it doesn't really matter if you want to hook a PSP up to an HDTV or a regular SDTV you still need video out!

UMD movie playback is one of the big features SONY is pushing for. Most people are NOT going to buy TWO copies of the SAME movie. It's either DVD or UMD. Guess which one most people would choose? However should they choose the UMD route then it would a very good thing to have video out so that they can enjoy the said movie on a larger tv. BTW just because a person owns a HDTV doesn't mean they can't watch SDTV broadcasts on them or UMD movies.
 
PC-Engine said:
Actually it doesn't really matter if you want to hook a PSP up to an HDTV or a regular SDTV you still need video out!

UMD movie playback is one of the big features SONY is pushing for. Most people are NOT going to buy TWO copies of the SAME movie. It's either DVD or UMD. Guess which one most people would chose?

I've never said u're wrong on that. I never even touched the subject.

And of course i would only "consider" of buying UMD media if it were much cheaper than normal DVD. Other than that, i'd only transfer from my DVD library to PSP, if that's possible.
Also, i would only consider buying PSP if it's close to perfection, at that price... ;)
 
imo I don't thing full length feature films will be the biggest hit on PSP, nor do I think Sony, or anybody else on his right mind is expecting it.
PSP is not going to be the centre of your home theatre, as hard as it is for some to believe.

I most likely am going to buy a PSP.

- Iwill buy mainly games for it (I believe games will be the biggest attraction of PSP), I expect to purchase average 7 PSP titles per year.

- I will buy some pre recorded music for it.
Some (if not the majority) of music discs will actually be consert or music videos. A portable device is nice for music videos. I expect to purchase average 4 music/music video discs for PSP per year.

- I will buy few movie discs for PSP, as I prefer to watch them on my 50" telly with 5.1 sound. Iexpect to purchase average 2 movie discs for PSP, just for the novelty value. The movies I buy might be some animated movies, something easy to watch light entertainment.

Edit: And I do not mind paying the current media prices for the content for my PSP, I might watch some dl'd pirated porn on it though.
 
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