It's official: PSP has 32 MB + 4 MB eDRAM

[London Geezer]

Edit: And I do not mind paying the current media prices for the content for my PSP, I might watch some dl'd pirated porn on it though.

Now THAT's what i'm talking about.
However, it would be much easier if UMD was recordable. I do have a spare 32Mb Memory Stick thing (from my digital camera), but not much will fit in there.....

 

[PC-Engine]

For me it's kinda tough to lay down a significant amout of cash for PSP knowing that GBA 2 isn't too far behind. If the battery could last around 5 hours under gameplay conditions and the price was around $180 then I would probably get one just because I'm a gadget geek. 8)

Heck, I'm about to buy a 512MB flashMP3 player for $250 without even flinching

 

[London Geezer]

For me it's kinda tough to lay down a significant amout of cash for PSP knowing that GBA 2 isn't too far behind. If the battery could last around 5 hours under gameplay conditions and the price was around $180 then I would probably get one just because I'm a gadget geek. 8)

Heck, I'm about to buy a 512MB flashMP3 player for $250 without even flinching

what a waste. just get an iPOD.

 

[rabidrabbit]

I wonder if the 2h minimum battery time was including the WiFi, constant UMD spinning, maximum screen brightness, maximum sound volume, all the processors running at ful steam etc...

I know the WiFi does eat your battery time in portables considerably.

l-b: I've seen some full length movie files for the SonyEricsson P800/900 phone at around 256 MB. Haven't tried how's the quality though, as the phone is my bf's, and he's more protective and jealous of it than he is of me (and I bought it to him for christmas ). I may barely touch it, he's afraid I'll mess it up, as I mess my PC when I dl stuff

 

[London Geezer]

I wonder if the 2h minimum battery time was including the WiFi, constant UMD spinning, maximum screen brightness, maximum sound volume, all the processors running at ful steam etc...

I know the WiFi does eat your battery time in portables considerably.

l-b: I've seen some full length movie files for the SonyEricsson P800/900 phone at around 256 MB. Haven't tried how's the quality though, as the phone is my bf's, and he's more protective and jealous of it than he is of me (and I bought it to him for christmas ). I may barely touch it, he's afraid I'll mess it up, as I mess my PC when I dl stuff

Interesting...yeah maybe the 2H figure is for everything FULL ON. And the maximum 10H is when the system is as idle as it gets, like playing MP3s off the MemStick, no screen, processors sleeping etc..
Would explain why there is a 8H gap between the minimum and the maximum estimates.

 

[PC-Engine]

For me it's kinda tough to lay down a significant amout of cash for PSP knowing that GBA 2 isn't too far behind. If the battery could last around 5 hours under gameplay conditions and the price was around $180 then I would probably get one just because I'm a gadget geek. 8)

Heck, I'm about to buy a 512MB flashMP3 player for $250 without even flinching

what a waste. just get an iPOD.

Nah I don't like iPODs too big and ugly, besides this flash player I'm getting is sooo much cooler not only in asthetics but also in functionality and performance. Also I only listen to one musical band and all of their albums to date can fit into that 512MB. I really have no use for even the 4GB mini iPODs.

 

[London Geezer]

For me it's kinda tough to lay down a significant amout of cash for PSP knowing that GBA 2 isn't too far behind. If the battery could last around 5 hours under gameplay conditions and the price was around $180 then I would probably get one just because I'm a gadget geek. 8)

Heck, I'm about to buy a 512MB flashMP3 player for $250 without even flinching

what a waste. just get an iPOD.

Nah I don't like iPODs too big and ugly, besides this flash player I'm getting is sooo much cooler not only in asthetics but also in functionality and performance. Also I only listen to one musical band and all of their albums to date can fit into that 512MB. I really have no use for even the 4GB mini iPODs.

wow so u're gonna spend $250 to listen to one band.
then maybe the people who will buy PSP for whatever price Sony will charge are not that mad......

 

[PC-Engine]

Yep and the funny thing is I already have a 256MB flash MP3 player that I bought about a year ago for $220

However I'm currently trying to sell it at a big discount.

The thing is when you buy a portable game system, you're forced to buy games for it, otherwise it's pretty useless as a game machine. An MP3 player OTOH doesn't force me to buy music for it because I buy music CDs anyway. Music CDs are cheap while videogames are pretty expensive especially new releases.

 

[Clashman]

One way they might be able to push UMD for movies would be to release the movies a few weeks earlier on UMD vis-a-vis VHS and DVD. There are probably people who would buy a PSP just to get an early copy of the next blockbuster hit. They could also include UMD movies with movie-themed games. IE, buy the new Return of the King game, get the UMD movie of Return of the King. I highly doubt they'd actually be able to pull it off, but if they tried, it might work.

 

[rabidrabbit]

...
The thing is when you buy a portable game system, you're forced to buy games for it, otherwise it's pretty useless as a game machine. An MP3 player OTOH doesn't force me to buy music for it because I buy music CDs anyway. Music CDs are cheap while videogames are pretty expensive especially new releases.

There's something so very wrong in the logic of that comparsion :?

 

[PC-Engine]

One way they might be able to push UMD for movies would be to release the movies a few weeks earlier on UMD vis-a-vis VHS and DVD. There are probably people who would buy a PSP just to get an early copy of the next blockbuster hit. They could also include UMD movies with movie-themed games. IE, buy the new Return of the King game, get the UMD movie of Return of the King. I highly doubt they'd actually be able to pull it off, but if they tried, it might work.

That probably wouldn't work because people aren't that desparate to get an early release just to watch on a little screen. It would still be a niche market. I think most people would rather just wait for the higher resolution DVD which they can watch on their tv sets with their family or friends not to mention the included featurettes/bonus video material.

 

[London Geezer]

One way they might be able to push UMD for movies would be to release the movies a few weeks earlier on UMD vis-a-vis VHS and DVD. There are probably people who would buy a PSP just to get an early copy of the next blockbuster hit. They could also include UMD movies with movie-themed games. IE, buy the new Return of the King game, get the UMD movie of Return of the King. I highly doubt they'd actually be able to pull it off, but if they tried, it might work.

Mmmmmm I don't know about that. I think the only way i would watch movies on PSP will be trought the MemStick (since the UMD is not recordable).
In the end one full length movie can be vompressed quite easily with little loss in quality, which will be negligible anyway on PSP low-ish res screen anyway. Problem is, big MemSticks are EXPENSIVE. But hey, this is Sony we're talking about. Have they ever made something cheap?

 

[PC-Engine]

...
The thing is when you buy a portable game system, you're forced to buy games for it, otherwise it's pretty useless as a game machine. An MP3 player OTOH doesn't force me to buy music for it because I buy music CDs anyway. Music CDs are cheap while videogames are pretty expensive especially new releases.

There's something so very wrong in the logic of that comparsion :?

Why? Game machines are just devices for playing games and MP3 players are just devices for playing music. Difference is I don't need an MP3 player to play my music CDs, instead I want one because it's small and convenient.

 

[StefanS]

I wonder if the 2h minimum battery time was including the WiFi, constant UMD spinning, maximum screen brightness, maximum sound volume, all the processors running at ful steam etc...

I know the WiFi does eat your battery time in portables considerably.

IGN said the following:

Think we're kidding? Below is the exact quote Hirai gave regarding the lasting life of the handheld system.

"So, what is the battery life going to be on PlayStation Portable? It will be on par with traditional handheld systems, or approximately 10 hours. It is comparable to an ATC [ATRAC] portable music player, or approximately 8 hours. Or, it will be comparable to portable DVD players, which, in many cases, is about 2 and a half hours.
--Kaz Hirai, May 11, 2004

Also, you should know that, in the last few words of his speech, Kaz trailed off in a way that, if just for a second, sounded as if he was about to say in the middle of his well-rehearsed speech, "...which, in many cases, is about 2 and a half hours ... Wait, hold the phone, what am I saying?"

http://psp.ign.com/articles/513/513734p1.html


IGN on games from Japanese Developers:

CAPCOM
Vampire Chronicle (tentative name, fighting)
Devil May Cry Series (tentative name, stylish action)
Viewtiful Joe Series (tentative name, VFX action)


GENKI
Tokyo Xtreme Racer (racing)


KOEI
Shin Sangoku Musou (tentative name, action)
Strategy Game (tentative name, simulation)
Table Game (tentative name, table game)


KONAMI
Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim (tentative name, action-RPG)
Sports Game: Soccer (tentative name, soccer)
Sports Game: Baseball (tentative name, baseball)
Mahjong Kakutou (tentative name, table game)
Meikyu Tansaku Gata Monster Shooting (tentative name, FPS)


KONAMI COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT JAPAN
Metal Gear Acid (tentative name, genre TBA)


CYBER FRONT
Koron (puzzle/action)


SUCCESS
Kumo nofu ~ Raibo ~ (communication/adventure)
Sho Mate (table game)
Zooo (puzzle)


SQUARE ENIX
TBA (genre TBA)


SEGA
Puyo Puyo Fever (action-puzzle)


Project S (tentative name, genre TBA)


SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile (tentative name, driving)
Ape Escape (Sarugetcha in Japan, tentative name, action)
Tenken Chimon (tentative name, action RPG)
Doko Demo Issho (tentative name, speaking game)
Hot Shots Golf (Minna no Golf in Japan, tentative name, golf game)


TAITO
Puzzle Bobble (puzzle)


DORASU
Dorasurotto (pachinko simulation)


NAU PRODUCTION
Intelligent License (tentative name, puzzle quiz)
Onryou no Mura (tentative name translates to "Village of Ghost), horror/adventure)


NAMCO
Tales of Eternia(RPG)
New Ridge Racer (tentative name, race)
New Puzzle game (tentative name, puzzle)


NIPPON ICHI SOFTWARE
Makkai Wars (tentative name, simulation-RPG)


HUDSON
Tengai Makyo Series (tentative name, Japanese-style RPG)
Bomberman Series (tentative name, action)
The Tower of Purgatory (Sci-fi action/RPG)


BANDAI
Gagharv (tentative name, RPG)
Mobile Suit Gundam (tentative name, genre TBA)


BANPRESTO
Super Robot Taisen (tentative name, genre TBA)


FROM SOFTWARE
Armored Core Formula Front (mech game)


TOMY
Action Game (action)


YUKES
Pro Wrestling (tentative name, sports)


WORK JAM
Tantei Shinguji Santarou (tentative name, adventure)


Keep in mind that this is a list of titles in development only in Japan. It does not include games from the numerous developers making games for the PSP in Europe and America.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/513/513967p1.html

 

[London Geezer]

...
The thing is when you buy a portable game system, you're forced to buy games for it, otherwise it's pretty useless as a game machine. An MP3 player OTOH doesn't force me to buy music for it because I buy music CDs anyway. Music CDs are cheap while videogames are pretty expensive especially new releases.

There's something so very wrong in the logic of that comparsion :?

Why? Game machines are just devices for playing games and MP3 players are just devices for playing music. Difference is I don't need an MP3 player to play my music CDs, instead I want one because it's small and convenient.

I guess things change then when the game machine is ALSO an MP3 player... and a video-player-don't-know-what thing... and a wireless-internet-browser thing...

 

[rabidrabbit]

Well, then I could as well reply that
"A portable games system doesn't force me to buy games for it, because I buy games anyway".
or
"An MP3 player doesn't force me to buy games, because I rather buy music"
or
"A portable gaming device doesn't force me to buy just music, because I buy games and music anyway"

Sorry PC-Engine, but I just didn't understand at all what you were trying to say.

 

[PC-Engine]

Well, then I could as well reply that
"A portable games system doesn't force me to buy games for it, because I buy games anyway".
or
"An MP3 player doesn't force me to buy games, because I rather buy music"
or
"A portable gaming device doesn't force me to buy just music, because I buy games and music anyway"

Sorry PC-Engine, but I just didn't understand at all what you were trying to say.

I don't need an MP3 player to play CDs. I have CD players that can do that and who doesn't have a CD player?

To play games, you need to buy a game machine you can't just pop X game into Y machine that you already have. You have to buy X machine.

In other words there's no friggin STANDARD. It would be MUCH better if all the games could be played on any console based on a certain standard. For example any DVD player can play CDs and DVDs from any movie studio. I'm not forced to buy X DVD player to watch Y DVD.

 

[Clashman]

That probably wouldn't work because people aren't that desparate to get an early release just to watch on a little screen. It would still be a niche market. I think most people would rather just wait for the higher resolution DVD which they can watch on their tv sets with their family or friends not to mention the included featurettes/bonus video material.

Maybe you're right on that. However, I think even if people didn't buy it directly, it would be a good way to show off your system.

[Overly-Simplified Hypothetical Situation]Say ROTK comes out 3 weeks early on PSP. Everyone you know would be huddled around the one guy rich enough to buy one and say "Wow. I love ROTK. Hey, what's that thing it's playing on". To which, rich friend says "Why, my friend, that is a PSP. In addition to getting movies early, I also get to play PS2-quality games on the go. It is quite a fine machine, one of many from Sony (tm)". A demonstration of games ensues. Many oohs and aahs follow. Not-so-rich friend says "Wow, cool! I need to get me one of those", and begins diligently saving. [/Overly Simplified Hypothetical Situation].

In other words, even if it doesn't spurn people to buy PSP on that factor alone, it could help build up a buzz about the system.

 

[London Geezer]

That probably wouldn't work because people aren't that desparate to get an early release just to watch on a little screen. It would still be a niche market. I think most people would rather just wait for the higher resolution DVD which they can watch on their tv sets with their family or friends not to mention the included featurettes/bonus video material.

Maybe you're right on that. However, I think even if people didn't buy it directly, it would be a good way to show off your system.

[Overly-Simplified Hypothetical Situation]Say ROTK comes out 3 weeks early on PSP. Everyone you know would be huddled around the one guy rich enough to buy one and say "Wow. I love ROTK. Hey, what's that thing it's playing on". To which, rich friend says "Why, my friend, that is a PSP. In addition to getting movies early, I also get to play PS2-quality games on the go. It is quite a fine machine, one of many from Sony (tm)". A demonstration of games ensues. Many oohs and aahs follow. Not-so-rich friend says "Wow, cool! I need to get me one of those", and begins diligently saving. [/Overly Simplified Hypothetical Situation].

In other words, even if it doesn't spurn people to buy PSP on that factor alone, it could help build up a buzz about the system.

*Here comes the second very rich friend: Hey look i just got a new Sega Prometheus!!!*

 

[Brimstone]

Is it just me or is that hardly PS2 quality. It looks even less than DC.

it looks roughly PS2 quality. in some ways not quite upto PS2, in other ways better than PS2.

PSP seems closer to PS2 than Nintendo DS is to Nintendo64. at least from what ive seen.

my opinion could easily change with more examination.

Thats my overall feeling also. I get a much stronger sense of highly skilled craftmanship from the PSP.