Israel says killing Arafat an option

Silent_One said:
pascal wrote:
Anyway someone tried to make truce and then was hunted and killed. Dont you expect some reaction?
That goes both ways......
????
And you forgot:
Eight others were killed on the Palestinian side: four in encounters with Israeli troops, two in unexplained explosions, one shot by Israeli border police when he failed to stop at a road block and one shot by Palestinian militants who accused him of collaborating with Israel.
And probably there are more than that.
 
Because those unexplained explosions wouldn't have been potential bomb makers and/or suicide bombers that blew themselves up a wee bit early, would it?
 
RussSchultz said:
I think if both sides were against terrorist groups, then yes. Peace should be possible.
Probably it will not be possible to the Palestinian side go against its own people. Probably there a many militants groups and they work with distributed independent cells.

Remenber, you call them terrorists but their people probably call them heroes. edited: To their people the fact they commited atrocity is minor compared to their allegated motivations. You will find atrocity from other countries too.

IMHO we should see it as a thermodynamic problem. Take the heat of the water and we have less probability of bubbles until it cool down. Dont expect a ceasefire to have an instantaneous effect.

What is needed is cool down things and have peace.
 
Silent_One wrote:

pascal wrote:

Anyway someone tried to make truce and then was hunted and killed. Dont you expect some reaction?
That goes both ways......

????

It's simple pascal, both side tried to make truce. What you imply for one side can be applied to the other. You don't expect a reaction form Israel? I mean, you said "In june 29 the militants groups unilaterally called for a ceasefire but the Israeli troops carried out several deadly arrest raids and assassinations during the unilateral truce, prompting revenge attacks by militants. Looks like an Israel fault." and Russ shows you the recent history and that its not just one sided but you continue to act as if the the faults not on both sides by saying "...but at least one side tried to make a ceasefire."!

And probably there are more than that.
Yes, there probably are. Point being what? Who started it first? Come on, their both a fault!
 
I guess it largely depends on whether you consider groups like Hamas to be a legitimate Palestinian armed force, or a terrorist group.

Personally, I see those groups as _all_ Palestine has. Israel has the 6th largest military in the world, Palestine has emaciated boys throwing rocks.

Heck, no one called the American fighters 'terrorists' back in the British Colonial days.. weren't they 'patriots'? :LOL:
 
Silent_One

You can say that both have their problems but only one side (the less educated and organized side) said explicitlly that wanted truce and tried to start the process.

Also see my post above. My guess Israel will never take the heat of the water.

Also Abbas quit because:
But Mr Abbas apportioned blame all round in a private session of parliament on Saturday. A statement from his office said he told MPs: "The fundamental problem is Israel's unwillingness to implement its road map commitments and to undertake any constructive measures."

"The US (and the international community) did not exert sufficient influence on Israel to implement its commitments in the road map to push the peace process forward, or to end its military escalation."

Mr Abbas was also scathing about Mr Arafat and his allies. He accused them of "harsh and dangerous domestic incitement against the government and the obstruction of its functions" and said they were responsible for "unjustified accusations that the government, and the prime minister, had the motive of having control over everything or nothing".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1037363,00.html

Yeah, he had internal problems with Arafat and others but the fundamental issue for him was "Israel's unwillingness to implement its road map commitments and to undertake any constructive measures." Now Israel says the problem is mainlly Arafat.
 
I think the Israeli's should just give up, pack-up, and come to America like everyone else. We would have peace and happiness all around.
I mean whats a country without religion and sacrifice. :D
 
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