Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

Have you tried to play it? IQ it's quite strange on ps3; I'm unable to explain, but sharpness/jaggies steps seems to change when the engine struggle. IT's more notable at 1080p, less using 720p.

 

@assurdum, Crysis 3 seems to have dynamic resolution switching (Try opening the menu while in a game and quickly back out and the resolution will be really low for several frames) so I suppose that could explain it?

Perhaps it's more aggressive on the PS3? Does the IQ dip when theirs a lot of action? Judging from the Youtube videos I could find, the framerate is much smoother on PS3, while on Xbox it can get pretty low when things get hectic, while the IQ is pretty consistent from my experience.

I hope they can get this kind of stuff sorted out before launch, since I would like a stable framerate in the 360 version.

 

I haven't played 360 version, but fps appears seems quite stable, this is why I was surprise to read how 'sucks' in different thread (maybe only 360 version? I don't know). To the other side, playing at 1080p, I have noticed, when there are a lot of players in the screen, IQ become strangely muddy (like crysis2/1 on ps3), where the steps in the jaggies are wider. I'm not an expert but at least at 1080p, to me appears a sort of dynamic res on ps3. This effect is barely notable forced 720p in the xmb.

 

I won't have access for another month or two, so dunno. It's hard to analyze all the shots plus I don't have time for it.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-crysis-3-multiplayer-beta-demo-showdown

Crysis 3 Beta Analysis:

360: 1152x720 with SMAA

PS3: 1024x720 with SMAA

 

Killzone Shadow Fall is 1080p 30fps according to a German interview.
http://www.4players.de/4players.php...Infos_zur_Bildrate_und_3D-Unterstuetzung.html

 

Just came across this:

Anyone here who would be able to figure out the native rendering resolution and AA?

 

thanks for the video user

 

can't get the video. do you have a better link?

 

There you go, one more link:

http://www.shacknews.com/file/34395/unreal-engine-4-playstation-4-elemental-demo-trailer



It's the same video file as in the first link .

Working for you now ?

 

thanks for the link, it looks 1080p pretty much to me, @30 fps. though it's really hard to focus on the edges given it's a media clip.

 

Anyone here who could confirm this? AlStrong? Or Quaz51 maybe?

IMHO, it doesn't look like 1920x1080 at all. Looking much lower IMHO.

Not sure, but somehow it's looking way too "soft" / way too "muddy" for 1920x1080...

So, anyone here able to count the pixels of the video ?

By the way, also came across those:

vs.

 

Ahoy.

Here's some inFAMOUS: Second Son screenshots from DigitalFoundry (not sure how they got them)

http://i.minus.com/ibkgRIbXZty5J5.png
http://i.minus.com/iQwEcNd90wrcG.png
http://i.minus.com/ibm9p0FbQgjRYa.png
http://i.minus.com/igwm5jOlVR91e.png
http://i.minus.com/iFjqSto6AKXhL.png

And here's five widely released via SCEA's press site and Sucker Punch's website:

http://i.minus.com/ibh6HNZGfw0ghc.png
http://i.minus.com/itA1BlQBwywlU.png
http://i.minus.com/ibrAepEI3QcqYY.png
http://i.minus.com/ibaHHGcB0gM5KH.png
http://i.minus.com/i3Rwly50GbzVU.png


Looks like a high level MSAA, aided by the addition of depth of field in most of the shots?

 

very interesting comparison, i still can't make heads or tails on the rez myself. but it does seem to have some compromises here and there. given these differences shown, the demo on the Ps4 was no doubt realtime. don't for get the Elements demo was developed on a Core I7, Nvidia 680 Gt and 10 gbs of memory. (as explained to gameinformer.)

 

amazing, are those infamous shots really using msaa?

 

Looks like a 2xMSAA.

 

But since the games are running native 1080p would mean that they don't need as much aa compared to 720p games. For example a game rendered at 1080p with 2xMSAA would be equivalent to 720p 8xMSAA in terms of how smooth the edges are right?

 

Closer to 4xMSAA, considering that you have 2.25 the pixel amount on 1080p, also the sample locations are not as good as on standard 4xMSAA.

The big win is that you render into a native resolution of your display device, so there is no additional scaling on TV and thus image stays sharp.

 

Tomb Raider

Find these shots for 360 version, claimed to be FSD direct feeds.
seems 720p with post AA? Great IQ,clean and beautiful.

http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185464588.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185463502.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185459705.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185457396.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185451329.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185448945.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/13618544423.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185440178.jpg
http://img30.wal8.com/img30/320639_20130226125139/136185437116.jpg

 

Op’s link is down, I grabbed some shots and re-uploaded.

http://i3.minus.com/iDuWiBf8ctzv7.jpg
http://i3.minus.com/ibyxMsHd4LZgFC.jpg
http://i2.minus.com/iKLV2k1E8LpJf.jpg
http://i3.minus.com/ibwkxqyLOZJ5v2.jpg
http://i2.minus.com/itPPdnyBn0rcg.jpg
http://i1.minus.com/iTgl7aGJUrDi8.jpg
http://i5.minus.com/iI9qo01jl43Rl.jpg
http://i5.minus.com/iiCJdeY528GmW.jpg