Gaikai coming to PS4 2014.

Someone should start a petition to make Sony release an adapter for the Vita that would include ergonomic handles and R2/L2 triggers for remote play.

Not me, I'm too lazy to start a petition.
 
This was already announced at the Sony E3 Press Conference and mentioned in the June 10th Press Release I linked to and quoted earlier:



It's pretty clear from that wording that their launch plan is Gaikai streaming of select PS3 games to PS4s and (funnily enough) PS3s, with it to be rolled out to Vita later that same year.
I just hope that people can play PS3 games on Vita and can use their Blu-ray disc on the PS3 to register their copy of the game online so they can play games they purchased without having to buy them again in order to play PS3 games on the PS4 and PS Vita
 
Using the server eats up additional resources ($$$) every time you play. I think it is unlikely for them to do this for free even if you have the Blu-ray disc.
 
Using the server eats up additional resources ($$$) every time you play. I think it is unlikely for them to do this for free even if you have the Blu-ray disc.
Maybe... will it be free for those paying for PSN+? Times are changing indeed, that doesn't sound like what I'd expect for the good ol' BC, and it sounds more like defrayed costs BC. :-|
 
Maybe... will it be free for those paying for PSN+? Times are changing indeed, that doesn't sound like what I'd expect for the good ol' BC, and it sounds more like defrayed costs BC. :-|

Gaikai is more for cross platform play since you are not tied down by client hardware specs. ^_^
PS3 games are low hanging fruits. They should be able to do PS4 and PC games further down the road if they want to.

I have no idea whether they will charge extra beyond the basic PS+ subscriptions. If I were to hazard a guess, probably yes because PS+ needs to cover PSN server costs and its existing benefits. e.g.,
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013...the-playstation-plus-instant-game-collection/

EDIT: Or may be up to the user to choose Gaikai vs other benefits when they subscribe to PS+
 
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If Sony goes Gaikai with a Netflix like service for the PS3 library then I think XB1 (with its current offering) will have more in common with XBOG than a similar designation they will share similar level of sales.

So an always online digital service likely behind a paywall will be Sony's key to victory? That would certainly be ironic.
 
I'm going to guess a separate monthly subscription fee for Gaikai, independent from PS+, with a possible PS+ discount for the Gaikai subscription. Doing that would let people who aren't interested in PS+ for whatever reason to subscribe to Gaikai independently, further incentivising PS+, along with incentivising existing PS+ members to subscribe to Gaikai (creating an additional revenue stream for SCE from those users). Not to mention the entire Gaikai service takes the license subscription model to the next level of non-ownership. Things are clearly headed down the digital path, beit game streaming or straight digital downloads. IMHO, that's the reason SCE can PR grandstand on physical media DRM (because it probably doesn't matter much in the long run). Even if the next, next generation of consoles uses physical media, infrastructure will continue to improve, and for many people convenience trumps ownership.
 
So an always online digital service likely behind a paywall will be Sony's key to victory? That would certainly be ironic.

Yep a console gaming version of Netflix would be a killer app unless Sony does something dumb like putting it behind PSN+ while having an additional subscription cost.

Its not the "key" but can be one of the components of the key to a potential reality where Sony dominates hardware sales.

Given the attachment rate of consoles, your average console gamer misses about 90% of the console's library and that has little to do with lack of interest but the cost of access.

Nevermind that Gaikai is naturally hardware agnostic which means you don't need a PS4 to even make use of the service (if Sony doesn't lock it down). It could be used to lure people into the ecosystem then lure them into a PS4 purchase.
 
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Their key to success is covering all fronts and offering all choices.
Where's the irony?
 
Their key to success is covering all fronts and offering all choices.
Where's the irony?

More a matter of distinguishing their product with features its competitors lack.

No DRM, 8 GDDR5 and 50% more CUs does not mean much to a lot of console gamers. More tangible features can make a bigger difference with the no so technical crowd.
 
That would be like the current Music Unlimited service (Games Unlimited ?)

Today, PS+ users get a trial and special discount for Music Unlimited.

EDIT: Weren't they supposed to launch a Video Unlimited service as well ?
 
It's definitely going to be a kind of service that will end up on TVs as well, I reckon, and considering not nearly everyone wants to be able to play older games on their newer consoles, I'm thinking it will be a separate subscription from Playstation Plus as well, though Playstation Plus subscribers may still get free access to the service (or, say, free 2 hours a month or whatever), or a discount, etc. But I would expect the service to be available separately as well.

I definitely think Sony is taking this very seriously though, as a means to get more value out of their software, from wider platforms than just the Playstation, and as preparing for a strong 'games as a service' option that becomes free from (console) hardware.
 
If they are really serious about it, they have to tackle the latency issues up front, on day 1.

I think unlike the traditional "large data center somewhere" approach, they may need to host the Gaikai servers right at the edge (i.e., in the large ISPs and cable networks).
Or have their Gaikai backend hooked directly to these ISPs.
 
Sorry but I have to laugh as gaikai is the ultimate in digital DRM.

Laughing because those that felt so against XB1's DRM scheme are not readily putting up stop signs when talking about Gaikai?

Hard for me to do that because I never had a problem with XB1's DRM.

I can imagine your average consumer doesn't either.
 
They will have to work out a reasonable price for the subscription.

People who bought Blu-ray have no issue with NetFlix. But those Blu-ray people will fume up if you prevent them from reselling their Blu-ray movies.
 
I'm guessing Sony position will...

You have been practically throwing it away every new Gen anyway.

Netflix licensed content very cheaply early on because content providers didn't see much value of the content and netflix's delivery model.

I'm guessing it will be cheap unless it becomes extremely popular.
 
Laughing because those that felt so against XB1's DRM scheme are not readily putting up stop signs when talking about Gaikai?

Hard for me to do that because I never had a problem with XB1's DRM.

I can imagine your average consumer doesn't either.

Laughing because you're suggesting that service models that seem to be roadblocks for one vendor are being touted as keys for another.

Cloud computing is pr fluff, but streaming the game is somehow better. Not being able to sell digital goods is bad, but never actually being able to 'buy' them is great.

I'm not saying you said these things, it's just the tone on the internet. The biggest payoff for Sony seems to be baffling their audience with bs, but this is moving into business so I'll leave it here.
 
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