Future of 3D gaming and media *spawn

NavNucST3 said:
EDIT: Browsing IR site...I had no clue the PS3 TV does not come with a remote though I imagine the target for this device may already be familar with hdmi cec or already have the newer sony bluetooth/ir remote.
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PS3 TV ? You mean the new 3D monitor ? Monitors seldom come with a remote.
 
It's a monitor for people who don't want to buy a new TV for 3D (like me !). The monitor is usually an arm's length away. No need for remote.
Suitable for people in small living space too. e.g., dorms. The fullscreen split-screen feature may appeal to gamers living in these quarters.
 
Wimbledon finals to be first 3D broadcasts on BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/9506439.stm

The BBC will broadcast the men's and women's singles finals at this year's Wimbledon Championships live in 3D.

The matches, scheduled to be played on Saturday 2 July and Sunday 3 July, will be the first programmes to be shown in 3D by the BBC.

The free-to-air broadcast will be available to anyone who has access to a 3D TV set and HD Channels.

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LCD TV shipment growth is lowest this year already ( fell below 10% for first time), once apple's tv is out it stalls and they have to come up with somethnig better. Sony stuff will be a rounding error most likely.

OFC , RGB LED and temporal color generation like on DLP would be better , especially on 3D.
 
Plasma TV is good for 3D too. In any case, all major TV manufacturers support 3D today.

Rumors about Apple's HDTV is interesting but it's hard to say if they can beat the sales trend. AppleTV box didn't perform exceedingly well. In TV land, they are less proven. I guess we shall see.
 
DLP is a dead end outside the home theater crowd, not thin enough.

Plasma and LCD have something in common, they may not be or remain the a-priori most cost efficient technologies ... but the production lines, know-how and IP licenses are there to begin with and that can be enough. It's certainly not impossible to get phosphors and refresh rates fast enough for a truly decent plasma stereoscopic display (1152 fields per second, for 2x72 Hz).
 
Customers buy the brighter and larger TV set afaik,

plasma 3d is not bright (not bright is an understatement) , the phosphor isn't properly excited , nor the phosphor they use is any cool. Quantum dot LED research should give you an indication what is cool phosphor (ultra short lag).
 
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Brightness, color, price, size, thickness, ...

They buy the affordable ones that fit in their quarter. Plasma TV may be a deadend but it has the best balance of features when the price dropped.
 
The real consequence of the plasma dead-end thing is that they can't put that RealD kinda active/passive Z-screen modulator on it. They could, it'd act as anti glare coating, but the figures wouldnt be much better than now, can't compete, basically it's a display technology built around last century phosphor tech. AFAIK, only commercialized because there was that olympic happening going on 90's and they wanted huge screens, not even started as a household item, unlike CRT.
 
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Funny is that, plasma was never hailed as successor of CRT,

SED, FED was:
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2008/11/19/sony-shows-off-gran-turismo-5-at-240fps-on-a-fed-display/

energy efficiency would be insanely good at any size, look at LPD (another CRT successor) :
http://prysm.com/technology/understanding-lpd/benefits-lpd

they need to start mass producing 21st century grade phosphors and white backlit LCD disappears fast.
hi, i am the training manager at prysm.

what this is, is a new display technology. the product we are showing and selling now is only the first implementation of the platform. over ime, there will be different sizes, resolutions, etc. what is not mentioned here is that on top of all the image advantages... the 10' wide 142" diagonal 30 tile native HD wall at 600 nits (most plasmas are under 200) only draws on average 1000 watts.

this is a platform, over time, it will develop.
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how to assess 3dtv sales?

Even at good/mid price points, I see that the better sets "just happen" to be 3d capable. So, are people really buying into 3DTV or just buying HDTVs that happen to be 3DTVs?
 
tritosine said:
The real consequence of the plasma dead-end thing is that they can't put that RealD kinda active/passive Z-screen modulator on it. They could, it'd act as anti glare coating, but the figures wouldnt be much better than now, can't compete, basically it's a display technology built around last century phosphor tech. AFAIK, only commercialized because there was that olympic happening going on 90's and they wanted huge screens, not even started as a household item, unlike CRT.
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Ah... but at this moment, Plasma 3D looks better than LCD ones. People may commit now because of the price drop. When they want to buy another TV in the future, they can always consider newer technologies !

For me, I'll just get a LCD 3D monitor and wait for the next big leap. ^_^



acaeus said:
Even at good/mid price points, I see that the better sets "just happen" to be 3d capable. So, are people really buying into 3DTV or just buying HDTVs that happen to be 3DTVs?
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Yes, that's the PLAN from the start. The backend and content need time to negotiate, invest and build up anyway. Once these 3D capable boxes are out there, they will become an economy later. If used properly, 3D is supposed to affect story telling also (How to position camera, new techniques to emphasize subjects, blah). Now, I think they are kinda hits and misses.
 
A quick look at auto-stereoscopic 3D for portable gaming...

Maybe 3D Isn’t Essential for the 3DS After All, Nintendo Hints:
http://kotaku.com/5814119/maybe-3d-isnt-essential-for-the-3ds-after-all-nintendo-hints

Nintendo has never required users of the Nintendo 3DS to play their games with the system's glasses-free 3D visuals activated. But 3D has been the machine's selling point, one baked into the machine's name.

There are signs, however, that game creators, Nintendo included, are discovering that the 3DS' 3D isn't always a useful technological perk and that it might even be a nuisance that some gamers are avoiding.

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Spotpass (3D) TV demo on 3DS... (shown in 2D):

During the 3DS announcement, Nintendo said they plan to deliver new content to 3DS everyday. This is the beginning.
 
They better start picking up the pace in the other territories as well. The 3ds Eshop is a depressing barren wasteland at this point (especially in Europe). Only thing worse then the dearth of content is the ridiculous amount of money Nintendo is asking for it. 4€ for a Gameboy rom? (6€ in Zelda's case) Is this a joke?
Release the promised Shawn the Sheep episodes already, damnit.
 
patsu said:
As I understand, US 3DS will get mobile NetFlix instead of SpotPass. No idea what Yurop will have yet.
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Nah. Spotpass is a universal feature of the handheld. It's the same for every 3ds. I don't think Europe has anything quite like Netflix, so I can't really blame Nintendo for that. I will however blame them for the laughable online update that was released earlier this June. The browser is basically non-functional. Doesn't even display the Nintendo 3ds website properly (well, more like not at all) As far as the Eshop content is concerned: 4 GB roms and a 3d update of Excitebike after a three months wait.That's just splendid.
 
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