Formula 1 - 2010 Season
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tongue_of_colicab
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Exactly why is vettel hard on the car? his engine blew which is hardly his fault. He had a sparkplug failure which isn't his fault. And he had a brake failure which is probably more the fault of the team misjudging cooling needed than him braking too hard.
Anyway they should do this semi night races more often. I really liked the shot when they drove into park ferme. It was quite dark, the cars where all muddy and with all the camera flashes I thought it gave a very nice view.
Anyway they should do this semi night races more often. I really liked the shot when they drove into park ferme. It was quite dark, the cars where all muddy and with all the camera flashes I thought it gave a very nice view.
tongue_of_colicab
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No he doesn't. Chances are that Ferrari probably managed their engines in a different way than eg RBR. So instead of having 7 engines with a lot of milage and one fresh engine for the last 3 races they just have 8 engines with less milage on them. Anyway I'm pretty sure that not taking production errors (like today with vettels engine) into account all engines in the field are very much capable of doing the milage they have to do.
Boring as hell at the beginning with all this SC drama and red flagging.
I liked what Lewes was saying over the radio to just get on with race because they raced in worse conditions.
Obviously they had spray issue and a bit of water on track, but if they would start race normally then the gaps between cars would quickly get a lot bigger than in SC procession and therefore spray issue would be minimized.
Anyway today I was surprised that only Mercedes was clever enough to change both car setups to full wet during red flagged period. It clearly gave them big advantage and they were quickly passing cars in front.
Also you could clearly see which cars were working fine with full wet tire. Definitely not:
Renault (most likely suspension setting)
JB McLaren (as pointed by Ted from BBC JB was using different suspension components and settings to LH)
Force India
Shame for Webber, but this makes for even better racing coming weeks
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Great job Alonso and Hamilton.
MS also finally showing some of the old potential.
I liked what Lewes was saying over the radio to just get on with race because they raced in worse conditions.
Obviously they had spray issue and a bit of water on track, but if they would start race normally then the gaps between cars would quickly get a lot bigger than in SC procession and therefore spray issue would be minimized.
Anyway today I was surprised that only Mercedes was clever enough to change both car setups to full wet during red flagged period. It clearly gave them big advantage and they were quickly passing cars in front.
Also you could clearly see which cars were working fine with full wet tire. Definitely not:
Renault (most likely suspension setting)
JB McLaren (as pointed by Ted from BBC JB was using different suspension components and settings to LH)
Force India
Shame for Webber, but this makes for even better racing coming weeks
.Great job Alonso and Hamilton.
MS also finally showing some of the old potential.
It was very boring at the start of course, but when it got going it was incredible.
Webber made a mistake, Vettel didn't but maybe RBR are installing his engine in a wrong way like they did last year. The engine itself is not bad because the Renaults don't really blow up. Maybe RBR's programming doesn't suit the engine, it is too much on the limit.
Liuzzi did a great job, as did Michael Schumacher I think. He showed sparks of his old self when he was testing the limits of the grip under SC conditions. He nailed Kubica where he had researched the grip when the SC came in. Bad luck for Rosberg being knocked out by Webber's mistake. When JB came in for inters and then got out behind that train, I think he gave up. Lewis did a great job, though he outbraked himself in turn one letting Ferrari off the pit-stop mistake they did. Lewis certainly outdrove the capabilities of the car.
Sutil was rubbish today. He's right back into his yo-yo form from the past.
Fantastic result for Fernando, it was insane. This season is amazing.
Webber made a mistake, Vettel didn't but maybe RBR are installing his engine in a wrong way like they did last year. The engine itself is not bad because the Renaults don't really blow up. Maybe RBR's programming doesn't suit the engine, it is too much on the limit.
Liuzzi did a great job, as did Michael Schumacher I think. He showed sparks of his old self when he was testing the limits of the grip under SC conditions. He nailed Kubica where he had researched the grip when the SC came in. Bad luck for Rosberg being knocked out by Webber's mistake. When JB came in for inters and then got out behind that train, I think he gave up. Lewis did a great job, though he outbraked himself in turn one letting Ferrari off the pit-stop mistake they did. Lewis certainly outdrove the capabilities of the car.
Sutil was rubbish today. He's right back into his yo-yo form from the past.
Fantastic result for Fernando, it was insane. This season is amazing.
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I caught the last half of the (lengthy) race summary on the BBC, and it's the first bit I've seen basically of this season, but man, I was in for a treat. I hang on to watching in the first place because it was Korea and it was rain, and rain is almost always interesting, but this was insane. It reminded me of a race on Monaco in the rain where I think only 6 drivers made the finish. This wasn't that crazy, but it was still a thrilling ride.
tongue_of_colicab
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You really missed out this season than as its one of the best in years. Apart from suzuka en the first race which I think were boring action has been going on in all other races.
@Lightman: You think so? If we have to believe Brundle there isn't much difference between a dry and a wet setup these days. They are always running full downforce so its pretty much limited to suspension but he said that won't make much of a difference. Also, can they actually change much on the setup during a pitstop? I don't think they can change things like suspension stiffness and rollbar setting from the outside?
@Lightman: You think so? If we have to believe Brundle there isn't much difference between a dry and a wet setup these days. They are always running full downforce so its pretty much limited to suspension but he said that won't make much of a difference. Also, can they actually change much on the setup during a pitstop? I don't think they can change things like suspension stiffness and rollbar setting from the outside?
Mercedes guys took off Rosberg's nose when they were red flagged, but who knows what they were doing to the fluids in there. There are certain things you are allowed to do due to changed climatic conditions or whatever they call it.
Ted (BBC pit lane reporter) confirmed with Brawn that they've changed both cars to complete wet setup. This included changing of:
- suspension settings, mainly springs (that's why they were taking off fronts of the cars and dismounting brake fluid bottles to gain access to sprigs inside monocoque)
- brake settings and components (including type of brake pads to allow better feel in slippery condition)
- ride height
Oh, and this wasn't during pitstop but when the race was redflagged.
It gave them quite a bit of edge I think. Suspension setup has a big influence on the way tyres are working! Just listen to JB or RK interviews after the race
Sutil had brake issue and this was biggest reason of his very poor showing.
Lovely race indeed once it got going
DarthShader
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I think Sutil played too much F1 2010 before the race. He was consulting after all.
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